Treehouse Racing Control Arm Bushings GB- Shipped!

[Skafrog]

Alright folks, here is the group buy for the Treehouse Racing (http://www.treehouseracing.com) CAB's (Eyeball Arms).
http://www.treehouseracing.com/images/EyeballArmsSM.jpg
These Control Arm Bushings (CAB's) are made for e30's, e36's, and Z3's.
They are CNC Machined Steel with a Nylon-Moly inner bushing which has a limited lifetime warranty.
The eyeball arms will give you tons of exhaust clearance for m50 swaps and improve "crispness" in steering and suspension.
Standard e30 m3 offset, yet are very easy to install. These bushings will slide on the control arm with one finger.

On a personal note: I installed these bushings in the front of my car about 8 months ago, and the car was transformed. On the interstate, the car felt alive in my hands. When the car used to waver over bumps, the car was not fazed at all after installing the eyeball arms. Easily one of the best suspension mods I have done to my car.

Jordan reviewed the bushings here. (http://www.r3vlimited.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=13237)

For all you m50 guys, here is a shot of the exhaust clearance on a stock m20 header.
http://home.comcast.net/~rc10t3/CAB_Rear.JPG
The stock lollipop butts against that metal plate to the left of the eyeball arm.

These CAB's have been tested for 3 years both on the track and street successfully.

Now on to the good stuff:

If you want a set of Treehouse Racing eyeball arms, put your name down here, along with where you live. All eyeball arms sold in the Group Buy will be sold unpainted. You will be able to paint them whatever color you like, but we strongly suggest that you paint them.

These bushings have misengraving on them. On one side, the Treehouse Racing engraving is either very faint, or non existant. Does not affect performance or function in any way. Purely cosmetic, but you get a great deal.



Pricing: $134 plus $9 S/H in continental US (143 total, shipped UPS ground).
We also ship to Canda for a different shipping fee, e-mail for details.

This Group Buy accepts Credit Card, Paypal, or Money Order/Cashiers Check.
Payment must be received no later than Friday, November 5th 2004.
The bushings will be shipped out by Friday November 19th 2004.
All communications for this Group Buy including questions and/or payments MUST go through Rob Case at rccase@comcast.net, AIM name tuxkilla, or call 615-522-1200 (9AM-9PM CST)
When you order the bushings, make sure you include the Group Buy Code: “r3vlimited”.

*Pay Pal payments are to be made to jon@treehouseracing.com with Group Buy Code: “r3vlimited" in the comment section
*Credit Card payments are to be made over the phone by contacting Rob Case at 615-522-1200
*Money Orders are to be sent to:

Treehouse Racing
5012 N. Hilson Dr
Nashville, TN 37211


1) Robert Heeter: Paid
2) Aaron Silva: Paid
3) Todd Groth: Paid
4) Unnamed: Paid
5) Robert Armstrong: Paid
6) Chris Sopkin: Paid
7) Stefan Finn: Paid
8) John Anderson: Paid
9) James Peacock: Paid
10) Derek Wescott: Paid
11) Robbie S: Paid
12) Hiroaki Amano: Paid
13) Spencer Chin: Paid
14) Alex Shiroma: Paid
15) Brian McKinney: Paid
16) Brandon Pearall: Paid
17) Derek Slottke: Paid
18) Eric Lojuks: Paid
19) Spencer Bunting: Paid
20) Denver Matney: Paid
21) Jon Gilliatt: Paid

All eyeball arms were shipped today, Monday Dec. 2nd.

[rwh11385]

Dibs. I want them ASAP. And I want them black. If you can get them out to me by the 29th, that would be awesome. Hopefully people will jump onboard fast enough for that.

I'm in Indianapolis, so pretty close I'd say.

I'm in, I'm down, whenever you say I can pay for them. So let's get people on it with $ ready and so I can have them in the next two weeks.

edit= update:
I said I was down, definately for that nice price.

[DanGillan]

im down for a black set or if unfinished is cheaper, then unfinished, whatever. not sure what the price is though, so i guess it depends on that. im in massachusetts btw... let me know, thanks,

Dan

[boom-monkey]

Robert Thompson
Orlando, FL
Black

2nd dibs, let me know price and I will let you know for sure.

[royalflush313]

very interested.

in black or silver.

Let us know the pricing and shipping fee etc. Thanks.

[aaron_silva]

Im in.

Aaron Silva
Sacramento, CA

[Kruzen]

James Anderson
Gig Harbor, Washington

In for black, let us know the pricing :)

[jasonk]

Interested, black preferred

[BimmerToad]

I'm down for a pair. I'd prefer either a mis-engraved pair or a black pair.

I live in San Diego, CA,

Todd Groth

[inLine6]

Put me down for a pair (black or silver)

Alex Shiroma
Falls Church, VA

[spud814]

I'm in depending on price.

I live in San Francisco, CA.

-gil

[m42technic]

Im definitely in. Whatever's clever.

James Peacock
Seattle, WA.

[Il Duce]

I'm in depending on price.

[Brian 89 325i]

Im in!
Brian McKinney
Grand Terrace Ca.

Brian

[e304lyfe]

I'm in depending on price.

[Spaz]

f**k u and your group buys when i don't have a car !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

props on getting a great product for the forum. :D

[JasonH]

I'm interested in a black set. How much of a discount are we really talking because of misengraving?

[MR 325]

I'm in depending on price.

[trent]

I'm interested in a black set. How much of a discount are we really talking because of misengraving?

Ditto.

[BimmerToad]

Any word back on prices, for a normal set and a misengraved set?

[Schnell 318]

i am interested in a set of either normal or misengraved in black assuming that the control arms on the 318's are the same as the 325's

[Skafrog]

Tonight I will have finalized prices, availability, and all the good stuff. However, I gotta let you guys know that the eyeball arms will come unpainted, leaving you guys to paint them black or whatever color you want. Sorry for the confusion on the colors, all the sets going for the GB are unpainted.

[robert325is]

im in.. get those prices up ASAP!

[rwh11385]

So GB = unpainted.
All other sets later, for R3V members = free black?

Cool, that works.....mainly because I don't give a fuck about color. ;)
But it's nice you are nice to R3V members. :D

[808BMW]

Hehe, I'm like everyone else, in depending on price :P

Chris Sopkin
Kailua-Kona, Hawaii

[///M Powered]

I'm in depending on price.

[e30sd]

in

san diego, i want some of the rejects.

[SpencerM3]

Also interested depending on price for my E36.

[BimmerToad]

in

san diego, i want some of the rejects.

No joke?!?!? Need the different wheel placement to clear 18" E46 M3 track wheels :lol:

pricing?

[DarkWing6]

So if I need to replace my front control arms I should just buys these and do them at the same time, right? Because I'm gonna need to by the bushings, so why not go all the way with the upgrade? I may be in depending upon price.

EDIT: I'd like to get one of those misprints if I can (save $$). If not then probably Black or Silver, but Green wont kill me. So really I'm open as long as I can save some $$.

[Skafrog]

yes, especially because of the ease of installation, and the great deal with the group buy.

[Skafrog]

ok, pricing is up. E-mail me at rccase@comcast.net, AIM me (tuxkilla), or revise your post if your still interested

[grapedrink]

When does this GB end?

[Skafrog]

the original post has now been edited to include all pricing, timing, availability info.
Payment must be recieved by Nov 5th.

[aaron_silva]

Paid.

Thank You.

Aaron

[aaron_silva]

BTW- For those not gifted in math, thats a 20% discount off the shipped price.

Aaron

[BimmerToad]

What method of shipping does treehouse use? UPS?

[Skafrog]

UPS Ground.

[MR 325]

Count me out for now, later I will get some for sure though.

[///M Powered]

Update: I'm out for a while as well, other car part priorities came up :(

[spud814]

I'm waiting on the IS Lip GB, if that doesn't happen my money goes to these control arm bushings. What do you guys think i should buy? The IS lip or these Control Arm bushings? I have until the 5th to decide, I'm leanning towards the control arms b/c i'm all about function but i've been wanting a IS lip for 3 years aready, just always spent my money on suspension parts instead. Advice guys?

[Kruzen]

I'm waiting on the IS Lip GB, if that doesn't happen my money goes to these control arm bushings. What do you guys think i should buy? The IS lip or these Control Arm bushings? I have until the 5th to decide, I'm leanning towards the control arms b/c i'm all about function but i've been wanting a IS lip for 3 years aready, just always spent my money on suspension parts instead. Advice guys?

CA bushings.

[robert325is]

im still in... i paid

-Robert Armstrong

[808BMW]

Is that same price shipped to Hawaii (96740)?

[Skafrog]

sorry, but 9 shipping wont cover it, let me get you a quote.

[nando]

I'm interested, mostly because installing the rubber M3 bushings is such a PITA.

one question, can these be reused later if I have to change my control arms? although that's not likely, mine have 160k on them so far and aren't showing any signs of wear yet (still replacing them this spring, however).

[Skafrog]

they sure can. One of the best aspects of the design is how easy they are to install/uninstall. If your bushing ever wears out, it has a lifetiem warranty on it as well. These CAB's will be the last ones you will ever buy.

[spud814]

How much stiffer/harsher does the ride get with the these CABs? Someone brought this up, and now i'm a bit concerned since i drive this car daily. Anyone?

[parkerbink]

I want a set, sent you an email.

[Skafrog]

the ride is a little stiffer, but its not too bad. Read Jordan's review here:
http://www.r3vlimited.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=13237
The ride is no stiffer on normal pavement, but you do feel the blue reflectors in the road a little more, but nothing too serious.

[Jordan]

Kinda sucks that I just paid full retail on these, then wrote a positive review that spawns a Group Buy where everyone else saves a bundle.

[Rob]

such is the price of fame.

[trent]

Kinda sucks that I just paid full retail on these, then wrote a positive review that spawns a Group Buy where everyone else saves a bundle.

hero

[UNHCLL]

Kinda sucks that I just paid full retail on these, then wrote a positive review that spawns a Group Buy where everyone else saves a bundle.

You did a good service.

Perhaps it will make up for the cruelty of banning poor souls. ;)

[aaron_silva]

Thanks Jordan for sparking interest.

Aaron

[Kruzen]

Kinda sucks that I just paid full retail on these, then wrote a positive review that spawns a Group Buy where everyone else saves a bundle.

thanks for taking one for the team :up: :)

[parkerbink]

Money sent! Thanks for the great deal!!!

What kind of paint do I need to get to paint them? I am clueless in this area.

Need to put the stock ones I have up for sale.

[DarkWing6]

Kinda sucks that I just paid full retail on these, then wrote a positive review that spawns a Group Buy where everyone else saves a bundle.

What can I say? You are a trend setter.

[spud814]

I'll be out this time, i just got a really good deal on a pair of Seas Lotus components. So all my money is going towards that set of speakers. Thanks for hooking it up tho Skafrog, i'll probably buy a pair in the future.

-gil

[Kruzen]

just paypalled ya, thanks :)

[MR 325]

Money sent! Thanks for the great deal!!!

What kind of paint do I need to get to paint them? I am clueless in this area.

Need to put the stock ones I have up for sale.
You can leave them as is from what i understand. Or spray paint them black or whatever with quality spray paint.

[parkerbink]

Ok cool, I thought it said somewhere it wasn't painted & needed to be. Guess I had a senior moment. .lol

[DarkWing6]

Ok cool, I thought it said somewhere it wasn't painted & needed to be. Guess I had a senior moment. .lol

It does say that they recomend painting, but it is not required.

[parkerbink]

Ok so what kind of quality paint do I get? I really have no clue about painting automotive parts. Please be specific. I want to do it correctly.

Thanks

[DarkWing6]

I think VHT (I think thats what it's called) would work fine. That is what I've been told to use when doing valve covers and manifolds and all. I'm pretty sure that Auto Zone carries it. Anyone feel free to correct me cause I'm not 100% positive.

[Skafrog]

if your stuck, go to autozone and get some paint, any metal paint will work.

[m42technic]

Money sent. :twisted:

[DarkWing6]

I'm in!

Will be paying by credit card.

[Hugo Stiglitz]

Kinda sucks that I just paid full retail on these, then wrote a positive review that spawns a Group Buy where everyone else saves a bundle.
What was full retail, if you don't mind my asking.

[aaron_silva]

$169+$9shipping.

Aaron

[Hugo Stiglitz]

$169+$9shipping.

Aaron
So about $30 difference? Big deal...

[MattE30]

I think retailers should send their products to Jordan, have him put it on his car and review it. A good review is garunteed to sell about 20 units, minimum.

[e30Matt]

$169+$9shipping.

Aaron
So about $30 difference? Big deal...
That's an oil change for most people. :)

[Hugo Stiglitz]

$169+$9shipping.

Aaron
So about $30 difference? Big deal...
That's an oil change for most people. :)
Yeah, I guess.

[cthulu703]

I will submit payment on the 5th of november, gotta pay property taxes first.

Derek Slottke
Portland, Oregon

[mpowerjon]

I think retailers should send their products to Jordan, have him put it on his car and review it. A good review is garunteed to sell about 20 units, minimum.

So far we're at 13. Where's your order Matt!!?? :lol:

Jon

[86325e]

You got Paypal Jon...

Eric

[SpencerM3]

You'll have paypal tonight from me as well. 8)

[tonytony]

I'm out, realized I need to fix other problems with my car

[Skafrog]

Remember folks, today is the last day for the group buy!
Get in while you still can!

[aaron_silva]

Is the 19th the earlist they can be sent out?

Thanks

Aaron

[Jordan]

Remember folks, today is the last day for the group buy!
Get in while you still can!

What is the current count on sold units?

[cthulu703]

I will submit payment on the 5th of november, gotta pay property taxes first.

Derek Slottke
Portland, Oregon

Paid

[royalflush313]

any updates?

[Skafrog]

not yet, I will let you guys know thursday night what the status is, and all of the shipping details.

[86325e]

Any update on the update?

[cthulu703]

bump

[rwh11385]

"motivate" the machine shop with some brute force Rob........

[royalflush313]

sooo.. any word on this?

[m42technic]

"motivate" the machine shop with some brute force Rob........

So they havent even been made yet? :?

[aaron_silva]

GB said they would be ready to ship out the 19th. I demand a bigger discount! :D

Can you let us know when they are ready to go please?

Thanks.

Aaron

[royalflush313]

GB said they would be ready to ship out the 19th. I demand a bigger discount! :D

Can you let us know when they are ready to go please?

Thanks.

Aaron

I demand a free s50 swap, and I will not ask for any more discount. :D

But, do tell us what is happening. Thanks!

[BimmerToad]

Well? What's the story? :?

[rwh11385]

Hope I haven't said something I should have, but I didn't want Rob or Treehouse seen as slow to act when it's not them.

Basically, with all the hype and orders, they had some made, but not alllllll what (?) 25 probably total made. And are waiting to get them all done before shipping out.

yes, the 19th has passed, but I cannot see Treehouse to blame, and I mean $30 off is a nice bargain. :twisted: And considering how some group buys operate, this one is still a good one overall, and think Rob's done a good job running it.

I apologize if I shared too much, but I think it would make them feel better if they knew what was going on.

[royalflush313]

^^

Yep, like i said, i don't care if it's delayed, i just like to be informed why :)

[Skafrog]

sorry guys, we were at the track this weekend.
Basically, we got way too many orders., so we gotta get some together, but it should not take long at all. I will update you guys tomorrow.
Sorry about the miscommunication, I had no internet this weekend (hell,, not even any power :))
I will let you guys know when they are shipped out, and I should have a tracking number with each package.

[BimmerToad]

K, thanks for the update :)

[Jordan]

:zzz:

[royalflush313]

so, its tomrrow :)

[m42technic]

so, its tomrrow :)

And the day after that, and the day after that...

[Skafrog]

Alright, here is what is going on with the group buy;

Originally, Treehouse had a small number of misengraves. The GB generated more orders than there were misengraves. Treehouse did not want to turn anyone away and let the GB continue to grow until the cutoff date. The good news is Jon is offering to give everyone a brand new set of eyeball arms for the same price. They will not be misengraves, they will be full production parts. Jon from Treehouse will keep the misengrave price for our trouble (waiting). Brand new parts are in production as we speak, I should have an update for you guys by tonight or tomorrow.

The bushings will still be left unpainted, but will be identical to the ones sold at Bimmerworld and on the Treehouse site.



Jon says he's sorry for the delay and hopes the new parts will make up for it.

[royalflush313]

bump

[JasonH]

So if those who were able to make it in to the group buy are getting new bushings, are the misengraved parts available for sale. Although, I didn't get in on the GB in time, I would still be interested in a set of the original misengraved bushings.

[DarkWing6]

So if those who were able to make it in to the group buy are getting new bushings, are the misengraved parts available for sale. Although, I didn't get in on the GB in time, I would still be interested in a set of the original misengraved bushings.

i believe all the ones in the group buy are the misengraved ones

[rwh11385]

So if those who were able to make it in to the group buy are getting new bushings, are the misengraved parts available for sale. Although, I didn't get in on the GB in time, I would still be interested in a set of the original misengraved bushings.

i believe all the ones in the group buy are the misengraved ones
I believe you have a reading defiency.

[DarkWing6]

So if those who were able to make it in to the group buy are getting new bushings, are the misengraved parts available for sale. Although, I didn't get in on the GB in time, I would still be interested in a set of the original misengraved bushings.

i believe all the ones in the group buy are the misengraved ones
I believe you have a reading defiency.

:oops:

[royalflush313]

enough about reading deficiency :lol:

anymore updates on when the shipment will go out?

many thanks.

[Skafrog]

Our production eyeball arms are back in stock, so the group buy bushings should ship out Wednesday via USPS. I will let you know exactly when they have all been shipped. The new bushings that came in today are beautiful!
Remember though, these bushings are unpainted, and will need to be cleaned and prepped before painting.

[royalflush313]

SWEET!

Thanks for the info, and thanks for organizing the group buy.

[JasonH]

And the misengraved units?

[Jordan]

You guys are welcome for the business. ;)

[Skafrog]

And the misengraved units?
They are no longer available. If you want to buy a set right now, you can check bimmerworld's website or treehouse's main website

[Kruzen]

What did we all decide was the best way to paint these? (materials and procedure)

[Skafrog]

You will have to clean them before you paint them with something like 409, then you can paint them without primer if you want, thats how mine are, and they are fine after a year. They dont have to be perfect if they are going on your own car. Engine enamel (the high heat paint) works great, thats what I use.

*All the eyeball arms were shipped out today (Wednesday, Dec 2nd).
Let me know when you recieve the bushings.

[aaron_silva]

tank u.

Aaron

[royalflush313]

sweet!

thanks!

[Kruzen]

You will have to clean them before you paint them with something like 409, then you can paint them without primer if you want, thats how mine are, and they are fine after a year. They dont have to be perfect if they are going on your own car. Engine enamel (the high heat paint) works great, thats what I use.

*All the eyeball arms were shipped out today (Wednesday, Dec 2nd).
Let me know when you recieve the bushings.

thanks, can't wait. (even though they wont be going on for quite some time.. lol)

[DarkWing6]

You will have to clean them before you paint them with something like 409, then you can paint them without primer if you want, thats how mine are, and they are fine after a year. They dont have to be perfect if they are going on your own car. Engine enamel (the high heat paint) works great, thats what I use.

*All the eyeball arms were shipped out today (Wednesday, Dec 2nd).
Let me know when you recieve the bushings.

thanks, can't wait. (even though they wont be going on for quite some time.. lol)

why not?

[Kruzen]

You will have to clean them before you paint them with something like 409, then you can paint them without primer if you want, thats how mine are, and they are fine after a year. They dont have to be perfect if they are going on your own car. Engine enamel (the high heat paint) works great, thats what I use.

*All the eyeball arms were shipped out today (Wednesday, Dec 2nd).
Let me know when you recieve the bushings.

thanks, can't wait. (even though they wont be going on for quite some time.. lol)

why not?

I think putting them on right now may cause some premature wear on the already old parts in the suspension.

I'm holding out till i can afford to rebuild the whole suspension (tie rods, control arms, shocks, springs, etc) to put everything on.

[Beej '86 325es]

That is my plan as well. Switching to aluminum CAs, new tie rods, custom endlinks, and either switching to Koni shocks or just going with Leda coilovers.

[robert325is]

got mine today 12/4.... look real nice.. heres pics :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/iamjonnyr/MVC-023S.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/iamjonnyr/MVC-022S.jpg

[86325e]

I just received mine too. They look great 8) Thanks for organizing the group buy.

[aaron_silva]

Me too. Thanks.

Aaron

[m42technic]

That is my plan as well. Switching to aluminum CAs

Dont waste your money.

[Beej '86 325es]

That is my plan as well. Switching to aluminum CAs

Dont waste your money.

I found a nice barely used set that I'm saving about $150 on.

BTW, those bushings are sexy, are they aluminum or steel? I wonder if they need to be painted at all...?

[Skafrog]

yes, they do. They will rust. This is the 4th time this has been posted :)

[Beej '86 325es]

yes, they do. They will rust. This is the 4th time this has been posted :)

:oops: Well I'm painting them silver!

[Skafrog]

you can always clearcoat them, that would look pretty bad ass.

[m42technic]

I found a nice barely used set that I'm saving about $150 on.

Fair enough. :)

you can always clearcoat them, that would look pretty bad ass.

:idea:
:twisted:

[royalflush313]

you can always clearcoat them, that would look pretty bad ass.

that's what I'm doing with mine :D

I haven't received mine yet. Damn fu**in border :twisted:

[Skafrog]

yea, it was a pain. Yours are a gift, and are worth 42 dollars so you wont have to pay any taxes or anything when you recieve them. I spent 20 minutes in UPS with the guy scheming on how to get them to you with minimal cost.

[royalflush313]

yea, it was a pain. Yours are a gift, and are worth 42 dollars so you wont have to pay any taxes or anything when you recieve them. I spent 20 minutes in UPS with the guy scheming on how to get them to you with minimal cost.

oh wow thanks. Sorry for the trouble.

The border sucks. I normally get charged $30+ for like a 80-120 dollar item. I see no fairness in that :twisted: :roll:

[Skafrog]

yea, I was pretty taken back when they said you would have to pay taxes. Thats bullshit. You should not have to pay any more than US citizens for the bushings.
I used to go to canada for the summers, dock in Chatham, and the customs guys would come on board and drink beer with my dad. Now, its a real pain to get into Canada.

[BimmerToad]

I got mine. They look great. Now I just need to wait for a few other parts to come before I put them on. Thanks for the great deal! :D

[parkerbink]

Going to Laredo tomorrow gonna get them and a bunch of stuff!!!

Thanks!!!

[Hugo Stiglitz]

Those look great, I can't wait to get some for my car.

[808BMW]

The border sucks. I normally get charged $30+ for like a 80-120 dollar item. I see no fairness in that :twisted: :roll:

I have the same problem, but I'm part of the U.S. :P

[Den]

yea, it was a pain. Yours are a gift, and are worth 42 dollars so you wont have to pay any taxes or anything when you recieve them. I spent 20 minutes in UPS with the guy scheming on how to get them to you with minimal cost.
oh wow thanks. Sorry for the trouble.

The border sucks. I normally get charged $30+ for like a 80-120 dollar item. I see no fairness in that :twisted: :roll:

Ain't "free trade" great!

A buddy of mine in Edmunton looked into gettting E30 parts from US and was told that NAFTA applies only to stuff made in North America, even used car parts. I think that's cr0ck if the stuff has already been imported into North America. The Treehouse bushings are made in North America though(No?); so shouldn't they be exempt under NAFTA?

[f u z z]

damnit! i missed by a long shot on this one. i forgot about these things! ugh, oh well i guess im payign full price :(

[tonytony]

damnit! i missed by a long shot on this one. i forgot about these things! ugh, oh well i guess im payign full price :(

I hear ya man...... :(

[e30 gangsta]

damn it... me 2

[92 mtechnic cabrio]

Well, before you guys buy full price, maybe you guys should see if there's enough interest for another group buy, I'll be in on the next one if there is one.

[mbonder]

I think I will too if there's another group buy.

Matt

[RCWells]

It's possible I would be in on a buy as well.

[JasonH]

I'm very interested in another group buy, but I need to order these with in the next couple of weeks. Has anyone talk to Treehouse to see if they are even willing to do this again?

[Skafrog]

no they havent. :D You can get them either off treehouse's main site, or off http://www.bimmerworld.com

[C ///M]

I'd also be willing to be in a group buy. If there isn't one within the next month though, i'll just be purchasing on my own.

[JasonH]

I sent an e-mail to Jon inquiring about another group buy since there seems to be some initial interest. I'll let you guys know when I get a response.

[f u z z]

im in, if the GB comes through.

[JasonH]

Another GB is looking promising. I'll start a new thread when I hear more.

[JRKOUPE]

I would also consider being an "in".......

[e30325ic]

I am in for a set.

[JasonH]

The GB isn't going to happen. Apparently, too many people expressed "interest" on the last one (myself included :oops:) and then didn't follow through. It looks like we are all on our own.

[JRKOUPE]

and they just said no?........why couldn't they offer a price when and ONLY when X number of people get on board......, if that x number is not met then no deal.......they would have nothing to lose.....group buys can be a bitch for all involved but if they work they rock.

[Schniddy]

I'll be in, but what is the difference between these and the regular m3 bushings? Just easier to work with. Are these bushings just for the front and arnt there more than one bushing on each of the control arms? Sorry for my noobiness, I really need to jack the car up and take a look under there.

[JRKOUPE]

The GB isn't going to happen. Apparently, too many people expressed "interest" on the last one (myself included :oops:) and then didn't follow through. It looks like we are all on our own.00.
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lookey here..no GB....dead

[Schniddy]

The GB isn't going to happen. Apparently, too many people expressed "interest" on the last one (myself included :oops:) and then didn't follow through. It looks like we are all on our own.00.
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lookey here..no GB....dead

I saw that, I was just thinking, the more people, the better the chance.

[DarkWing6]

I'm sure if you guys get 10 people together and have 1 person call and say that they would like to buy 10 sets and are wondering what it would cost you could get some kind of deal.

[JasonH]

His initial response to me was positive, then the second I received was rather brief and he dismissed the idea. I informed him of the number of people who had expressed "interest" or where "in" and was told that many of these people were the same ones who had expressed interest in the first GB. I can guess at what he was implying, but I had my reasons for not being able to buy a set AT THAT TIME. He still got 21orders. He added that GBs were a huge amount of work (or something to that effect), which I can certainly understand. If someone else wants to approach as well, go for it, but I may have to just go ahead an order a set so I can move forward with this project.

[JRKOUPE]

I dont want to beat a dead horse but how is a GB alot of work for a retailer?
He gets an idea of those involved, pushes some numbers around and voila!...comes up w/ a price. I just completed a discount price for this board for koni's and after many interested more than vansihed I just asked retailer to come up w/ a code word for us.....now we can just call and get the discount using the code........he did this knowing the group about disappeared.........thanks for your efforts though and again, GB's can be a hassle for the person trying to set it up........

[RCWells]

I'll be in, but what is the difference between these and the regular m3 bushings? Just easier to work with. Are these bushings just for the front and arnt there more than one bushing on each of the control arms? Sorry for my noobiness, I really need to jack the car up and take a look under there.

So what IS the difference between these and the M3 bushings???

[UNHCLL]

I dont want to beat a dead horse but how is a GB alot of work for a retailer?
He gets an idea of those involved, pushes some numbers around and voila!...comes up w/ a price. I just completed a discount price for this board for koni's and after many interested more than vansihed I just asked retailer to come up w/ a code word for us.....now we can just call and get the discount using the code........he did this knowing the group about disappeared.........thanks for your efforts though and again, GB's can be a hassle for the person trying to set it up........


having run 2 GB's its not nearly that easy. The amount of questions you get, the number of "tentatives" you get etc. make it a supreme task to weed out what is a "real number of those willing to buy" and "Tire Kickers"

The amount of lost time spent answering anf fielding questions also cuts into productive time you could spend earning capital for the company.

[JRKOUPE]

Dont get me wrong, by no means was I saying it was ez ...BUT....the hard part really falls on the person on this board arranging it. I always assume that those who come on board for a GB know what they want and what they are buying and so are past the point of asking often inane questions to the retailer. When we do a group buy it usually only appeals to those who already knew about the product and just were hesitating due to costs. I still think it is relatively a no brainer for the retail seller...he has a captive paying audience. If someone asks 100 questions toward the retailer and then ends up not buying(or even buying) I see it being a PITA. I just see GB participants as people in the know on the product and are ready to go based on the reduced price. Sorry to babble but these forums are wonderful and I really think if we could harness our numbers and power, we would NEVER have to pay retail if we were committed to our words.

[318driver]

joelRKaplan- Off topic, but you wouldnt happen to know a kaplan that teaches at stockton would you?

[JRKOUPE]

maybe a cousin....have some out there