GB: Feeler Adjustable Sway bar links

[rs4pro3]

No Longer a feeler. These are custom made by myself and I just got done doing my second group buy threw mye28.com.
I currently can make links for any e30 with any combo of stock or aftermarket sway bars or lowering springs.
These links are designed to eliminate preload from your old sagging suspension and to help restore the factory geometry of the sway bar when you lower your e30.
For example on my e30 with m3 sway links when lowered this is what happened
http://www.r3vlimited.com/gallery/files/7/4/5/1/PICT0002.JPG
As you can see the sway bar is at an extreme angle and this quickly cuased the sway bar bushings to crack.

Here are a few pictures of links I've made
Rears for Aftermarket E30 sway bars
http://www.r3vlimited.com/gallery/files/7/4/5/1/PICT0024.JPG
Does away with the U-shaped bracket on the trailing arm

Rears for Aftermarket E34 sway bars (e30 fronts are simular)
http://www.r3vlimited.com/gallery/files/7/4/5/1/PICT0025_831970.JPG

Rears for Aftermarket E28 Sway bars
http://www.r3vlimited.com/gallery/files/7/4/5/1/PICT0026_842742.JPG

Rears for Stock E28 Sway bars
http://www.r3vlimited.com/gallery/files/7/4/5/1/PICT0027_126342.JPG

Fronts for E28, E30 m3, E30 ix, E36 m3, E24, E23, E34
http://www.r3vlimited.com/gallery/files/7/4/5/1/PICT0028.JPG

Ok Currently these are the links I am offering
E30
Fronts
-Stock
#1=stock ride height
#2=Lowered
-M3 links
#3=Stock Ride height
#4=Up to 1.5” drops
#5=More then 1.5” drop
-IX
#3=Stock
#4=Lowered

Rears
-Stock
#6
-Aftermarket
#7

E28/E23/E24
Fronts
#3=Stock lowered up to .75”
#4=Lowered more then .75”

Rears
-Stock
#8
-Aftermarket
#9

E36 M3
Fronts
#3=Stock ride heights
#4= Lowered more then .75”

E34
Fronts
#3=Stock lowered up to .75”
#4=Lowered more then .75”

Rears
-Aftermarket
#10

For this to happen I'd have to have at least 5 people interested and pricing would be $55 shipped for fronts, $45 shipped for rears or $90 shipped for a set(any combinations)
Payment will be needed threw Paypal to hpiman@email.com or by Money order(pm for address)
The cut off date for the Group buy is March 26 It will take ruffly 1.5 weeks from that date for me to order all the parts and assemble the links and then you should have them in your hands around April 7(assuming all parts are in stock from my supplier and there are no other delays)
These are very simular to links that GC, Turner, and Ireland engineering sell but for half the cost

Above are the currently available options so for an E30 with m3 style front links lowered 1" you would want item #4
So just post your name and what item # you want in the following way
1. name, item #
2.
3.
etc...

[Dave]

I'd go for a set of fronts. Stock mount points - not M3 tabs

[BMW2ner]

I'd be in prolly for both but fronts for sure.
Any pics of them installed?

[rs4pro3]

Yes
E28 Aftermarket rear
http://home.comcast.net/~louielouie/rear_link.jpg

Some pics of how bad the preload was on my friends E28 before we installed the links, you had to majorly try to get the stock links installed.
http://www.r3vlimited.com/gallery/files/7/4/5/1/PICT0006_487030.JPG

E30 m3 style front(notice how much better the angle is)
http://www.r3vlimited.com/gallery/files/7/4/5/1/PICT0011.JPG
http://www.r3vlimited.com/gallery/files/7/4/5/1/PICT0010.JPG

[rs4pro3]

So far I've had 3 interested parties, so I think this will probally happen. Keep an eye out in the next few days for a new thread with all the ordering options etc....

[golde30]

front and rear for me. been lookin for a set on here for a lil while.

[bobross]

100% in. Paypal ready. Front pair for stock 90 325is, rear for an m3 bar.

How long would it be before i saw the product?

[rs4pro3]

Ok It's going to happen, just give me a day to post up a new thread with all the variose options.

[rs4pro3]

100% in. Paypal ready. Front pair for stock 90 325is, rear for an m3 bar.

How long would it be before i saw the product?
I'll run the buy 2 weeks, then allow 1.5-2 weeks from that point for delivery.

[rs4pro3]

Ok buy is on, I modified the first post to include ordering instructions. If there is a link you'd like that is not on the list email me and I'll see if I can make something for you or not.

[Beej '86 325es]

I'm in for:
E30
Fronts
#2=Lowered

EDIT: PayPal sent.

[rs4pro3]

1. Beej, #2-

[Dave]

Count me in - lets work it into the skirts/fender thing - I think I'll owe you a little.

[rs4pro3]

Count me in - lets work it into the skirts/fender thing - I think I'll owe you a little.
Sounds like a plan

1. Beej, #2-Paid
2. Dave, #2-payment worked out

[vt.bimmer]

Im assuming the preload on the rear would be just as bad as the fronts?
Im installing the new suspension this weekend so Im sure I'll find out.
Def. in for #2 and assuming the preload is rough in the rear #6

[bobross]

Greg, #2 (stock lowered front) & #6 (Stock M3 Lowered Rear)
Payment sent.

[rs4pro3]

1. Beej, #2-Paid
2. Dave, #2-payment worked out
3. Bobross(Greg), #2, #6-Paid
4. vt.bimmer(Brent), #2-Paid
5. PeaveyBassist(Will), #2-

[rs4pro3]

Im assuming the preload on the rear would be just as bad as the fronts?
Im installing the new suspension this weekend so Im sure I'll find out.
Def. in for #2 and assuming the preload is rough in the rear #6
Ya the rear's get preloaded also, it is not noticed as much becuase of the way the bar mounts.
I forget to mention but with the rear's you have to enlarge the hole in the trailing arm just a tad, it's easy to do and just takes a second. Instructions are included with the links on what needs to be done.

[vt.bimmer]

Ok let me take #2 for now.
vtbimmer-Brent #2
Paypaling now.

[nando]

I have a set of the front links, made by somebody else but they are exactly the same. they made a much bigger difference than I expected!

[herragge]

These are normally included in a kit bought from IE and ST right?

Just checking so I don't need to purchase it now.

Thanks

Mike

[vt.bimmer]

These are normally included in a kit bought from IE and ST right?

Just checking so I don't need to purchase it now.

Thanks

Mike
Correct. If you purchase a swaybar set from IE new endlinks come with it.

[Beej '86 325es]

These are normally included in a kit bought from IE and ST right?

Just checking so I don't need to purchase it now.

Thanks

Mike

I don't know about IE's bars, but ST's don't come with front links, only rears because they connect to the new rear swaybar differently.

[rs4pro3]

Ya some companies include links and some don't. Ireland bars mount differently in the rear hence why they include links.

[PeaveyBassist]

Will... one set of #2. I send money tomorrow via Paypal.

Will

[rs4pro3]

bump

[bobross]

bump

[2002maniac]

Paypal sent.

[rs4pro3]

1. Beej, #2-Paid
2. Dave, #2-payment worked out
3. Bobross(Greg), #2, #6-Paid
4. vt.bimmer(Brent), #2-Paid
5. PeaveyBassist(Will), #2-
6. 2002maniac( Cameron), #5, #6-paid
7. Leggwork(Bruce), #2-Paid
8. Teaguer , #4-Paid

[rs4pro3]

bump 4-days left

[rs4pro3]

Bump 3-days left, I'm also working on a way to seal the Bearings on these to make them last for a nice long time(they last for a long time without seals as it is)

[golde30]

golde30 (cary), #5, sending paypal rite now.

[rs4pro3]

1. Beej, #2-Paid
2. Dave, #2-payment worked out
3. Bobross(Greg), #2, #6-Paid
4. vt.bimmer(Brent), #2-Paid
5. PeaveyBassist(Will), #2-
6. 2002maniac( Cameron), #5, #6-paid
7. Leggwork(Bruce), #2-Paid
8. Teaguer , #4-Paid
9. golde30 (cary), #5-Paid

Just over 1 day left.
FYI If anybody is wanting a pair of rear links for stock bars and haven't paid yet, they may be a possible delay in getting them out as I'll have to get some pieces welded together. For the ones that have paid I've already have enough welded to cover you all.

[rs4pro3]

Bump just a few hours left.

[rs4pro3]

ENDED

Here is the final list
1. Beej, #2-Paid
2. Dave, #2-payment worked out
3. Bobross(Greg), #2, #6-Paid
4. vt.bimmer(Brent), #2-Paid
5. PeaveyBassist(Will), #2-Paid
6. 2002maniac( Cameron), #5, #6-paid
7. Leggwork(Bruce), #2-Paid
8. Teaguer , #4-Paid
9. golde30 (cary), #5-Paid

I'll order everything right away and get the parts in the mail ASAP.

[PeaveyBassist]

Money sent. Thanks for waiting on me to send payment :D

Will

[rs4pro3]

Got it. All parts have been ordered.

[2002maniac]

cool. how long do you expect it to be? No hurry really, just curious...

[rs4pro3]

well the parts should be here near the end of this week, so probally the middle of next is when I'll get them in the mail.

[bobross]

pumped!

[Intense]

damn, I just missed this....DAMN DAMN DAMN!!

Could you please let me know when you have another GB? Would need a set for a stock iX....

thanks
mike

[rs4pro3]

will do

[bobross]

Bump

[rs4pro3]

So far the main bit's of hardware haven't shown up yet, I've gotten all the nuts, bolts etc.. but not the spherical bearings. Hopefully those show up today, and I'll get everything out the door when I can.

[bobross]

ttt

[vt.bimmer]

ttt
hahaha, Im sure the parts didnt show up on a Sunday.

[rs4pro3]

It will take ruffly 1.5 weeks from that date for me to order all the parts and assemble the links and then you should have them in your hands around April 7

If it changes from that, I'll be sure to let everyone know.

[bobross]

hahaha, Im sure the parts didnt show up on a Sunday.

Considering the last post saying 'maybe today' was on a friday, i was looking for an updat on weather they arrived that day or even the next day (saturday). both days are shipping days. thanks tho.

[rs4pro3]

ya they didn't arrive, I'm calling the suplier Monday to see fit they have shipped yet or not, last time it took 9 days from when i ordered till when they showed up, so they should be here anyday.

[bobross]

ya they didn't arrive, I'm calling the suplier Monday to see fit they have shipped yet or not, last time it took 9 days from when i ordered till when they showed up, so they should be here anyday.


no doubt man, im not tryin to rush ya. just lookin to keep the doors of communication open :)

[rs4pro3]

Ok Update, I just got off the phone, they are out of stock of the turnbuckles for the front #5 links, so instead of calling they just put the order on hold untill the parts would get in stock(sometime in may). Any ways they are shipping everything they have in stock, and they will go in the mail tommorow meaning I should have them Thursday. This will push back the expected arrival date to everyone to probally the 12th or 13th. The only people the out of stock parts are affecting are golde30 (cary), and 2002maniac( Cameron). I'll be ordering the turnbuckles from another supplier(way more expensive but I'll take care of it). So you guys should also expect your parts around the same time. I'm sorry again about this, it would of been nice if they had called or emailed saying hi you want us to ship what he have in stock :curse:
I'll keep everybody updated as to the status of your orders.

[rs4pro3]

Update, just got one of the 2 orders I had to place, the other one should be here tommorow, meaning the links will go out monday in the mail. Sorry again everybody for the delay.

[rs4pro3]

Ok Everything is in, I'll assemble them this evening then either get them dropped off to USPS tommorow or monday, delivery confirmation numbers will be sent threw paypal so keep an eye out. Sorry again for the delay.

[rs4pro3]

Ok All links are assembled and WILL be shipped out tonight, again I'm terribly sorry for the delay. My supplier ended up being out of 2 different items despite there online system saying they had them. So I had to quickly source everything from somewhere else.

[Dave]

Thanks, Ely. Look forward to getting them.

[PeaveyBassist]

Sounds coo to me. The fact that you went with another supplier even though they were more expensive JUST to get us the links says a lot about you as a seller. A LOT of people would just say, "youre gonna have to wait". I give ya props for that ;)

Will

[Intense]

I got an email notice from Paypal that Ely had shipped mine. Thanks for the heads up

[rs4pro3]

ya everyone should be getting an email from paypal sometime this evening with the delivery confirmation numbers. Well I realy didn't have a choice with going with a different supplier, as the orig. wouldn't of had the stuff in stock till the middle of May. So it was either refund everyone there money, or order else where.

[PeaveyBassist]

I got an email from Paypal as well. Cool beans. I'm looking forward to getting mine ;)

Will

[PeaveyBassist]

Just received mine. Packaged VERY well. No way in hell they would have been damaged. Also look very nice. I am gonna try to get them on the car next Saturday. Hopefully they will work well ;)

Will

[bobross]

my 2 sets showed up today aswell. parts look good. Thanks again Ely

If anyone has any pics of there install, be sure to host em up. Id love to have a visual before i go tearing mine appart.

[rs4pro3]

I'm glad everyone is getting these, Please remeber these need to be installed with the suspension loaded, this can either be done with some solid blocks of wood under the control arms with the wheels removed, of the car driven up on ramps. I'd also like to see installed pictures :cool: I've got some on the e28's and the front m3 style but none yet of the e30 fronts or rears.

[vt.bimmer]

Got mine today too. Now that Im just about to go aftermarket sways. Oh well, they look great.

[rs4pro3]

Vt. Bimmer the front links you ordered will still work with aftermarket bars.

[vt.bimmer]

Vt. Bimmer the front links you ordered will still work with aftermarket bars.
Thats good to hear. Im going with IE sways and their package comes with them though. No problem, I should be able to sell the set.

[rs4pro3]

ya mine won't work with there rear bar but should work with the front

[Beej '86 325es]

Thanks man, look really nice. Here's a pre-install of mine. Looks like the CA bracket needs to be drilled to accomodate the larger bolt. What size bolt is that?

http://webpages.charter.net/bpearsall/bmw/links.jpg

[Dave]

Got mine today - haven't gotten them out of the package yet.

Thanks Ely!

[golde30]

Got mine today - haven't gotten them out of the package yet.

Thanks Ely!
I'm glad everyone is getting these, Please remeber these need to be installed with the suspension loaded, this can either be done with some solid blocks of wood under the control arms with the wheels removed, of the car driven up on ramps.
does this go for the e30 m3 style front links also? i cant see there being much difference loaded and unloaded when running a coilover setup with 450F springs...

[rs4pro3]

the brackets need to be drilled with a 3/8 drill bit.
Yes the suspension must be loaded, other wise you will get preload on the bar, yes with coilovers you could change the adjuster to eliminate preload but you still need to have the suspension loaded. You could install them with the car in the air, but that basically elimnates the point of having adjustable links. Ride height from left to right is not the same so once the suspension is loaded more then likely one link will need to be longer then the other so that there is no preload. On my car I have to have my passenger link set about 1/8" longer then the other so that there isn't any preload.

[golde30]

the brackets need to be drilled with a 3/8 drill bit.
Yes the suspension must be loaded, other wise you will get preload on the bar, yes with coilovers you could change the adjuster to eliminate preload but you still need to have the suspension loaded. You could install them with the car in the air, but that basically elimnates the point of having adjustable links. Ride height from left to right is not the same so once the suspension is loaded more then likely one link will need to be longer then the other so that there is no preload. On my car I have to have my passenger link set about 1/8" longer then the other so that there isn't any preload.
good to know.

[DrMcDave]

how can i get an ix set and how much, i know the gb is over but i would be interested in a full set possibly here soon.

[rs4pro3]

I can get you a set but they will cost more, let me check and make sure my supplier has the parts and I'll get you a price, would these be for stock rear or aftermarket rears? and how much of a drop up front?

[DrMcDave]

I can get you a set but they will cost more, let me check and make sure my supplier has the parts and I'll get you a price, would these be for stock rear or aftermarket rears? and how much of a drop up front?

ST rear bar, i have links for that but i may consider these for the rear.

The front is dropped on h and r sports 1.3-1.5ish i'd say. I may change it up and go GC here soon though but i was just more wondering the price. There is no front bar upgrade for an ix so these are a nice mod.

[rs4pro3]

ok I'll send you a pm with the price latter on.

[bobross]

Is it possible that i recieved the wrong front links?

I ordered for a lowered Stock front bar and i recieved liks that look like this:

http://webpages.charter.net/bpearsall/bmw/links.jpg

[PeaveyBassist]

Greg, thats what mine look like and I ordered the same thing.

Will

[rs4pro3]

Ya that's what they should look like, unless you ordered ix or m3 style links

[bobross]

it seems as tho my stock front bar dosent have holes in it rather the link slips over the end like the rear?

[PeaveyBassist]

it seems as tho my stock front bar dosent have holes in it rather the link slips over the end like the rear?

Stock front sway bar has one hole in it. Does NOT slip over the end of it.

Will

[rs4pro3]

Ya all the stock front's have the holes, the only car I can think of that uses a slip on link, are those sold by Ireland Engineering, but those are aftermarket.

[Axxe]

How much for M3 fronts and OEM rears?

[PeaveyBassist]

http://webpages.charter.net/bpearsall/bmw/links.jpg

I have these and when installing today, there is a lot of play in the link between the bracket. Is it suppose to be able to move back and forth there? Or should it be tight between something there? If I could, I would like to have a picture of them fully installed.

Will

[rs4pro3]

do you have the 2 brass sleevs installed? If so just tighten down till it's tight, the bracket will bend a little, but that is ok.
Should look like this with one brass spacer on either side of the link
http://www.r3vlimited.com/gallery/files/7/4/5/1/PICT0020_116058.JPG

[rs4pro3]

How much for M3 fronts and OEM rears?
M3 fronts-$75 shipped
stock Rears-can't do unless it's a large quanity, I don't have a welder so I have to pay someone to weld them.

[PeaveyBassist]

do you have the 2 brass sleevs installed? If so just tighten down till it's tight, the bracket will bend a little, but that is ok.
Should look like this with one brass spacer on either side of the link
http://www.r3vlimited.com/gallery/files/7/4/5/1/PICT0020_116058.JPG

What are those 2 black bushing looking things on either side of the link? I have the brass things on either side on the inside of the bracket. Should I just let the bracket bend until its tight?

Will

[rs4pro3]

that one shown is one I experimented on ussing a rubber boot to seal the bearing. But ya just tighten till it's tight, the bracket will bend a little but nothing major that would decrease it's strength.

[browntown]

any more pics of installs or reviews from ppl in the last GB?

Any idea when the next GB is going down?

I'm in no rush, so just shoot me a PM when you get another GB for this going.

[rs4pro3]

I can make these at anytime for people, the cost is just a little higher, but if there is enough interest I can do another buy.