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    How to retrofit ‘double lock’ driver door lock and keep central locking

    How to replace ‘double lock’ driver door lock with older or passenger side locks while retaining central locking.

    Symptoms of a broken double locking system:
    - Tumbler turns to horizontal (double) position only
    - Car will lock from drivers side but not unlock
    - Driver door will not lock, but will lock from passenger side and/or trunk
    - Driver door lock does not work

    Tools needed:
    - Phillips head screw driver
    - Small flat head screw driver
    - Medium size pry bar
    - Pick set (or a small finishing nail)
    - Hammer
    - Dremel with cutting wheel or a small file

    Additional tools recommended:
    - 300 grit sand paper/Emery cloth
    - Brake Clean
    - Silglyde or white lithium grease


    Process:
    1. Remove the door panel. Unscrew the door lock pull, remove the handle frame (red), and remove the 3 phillips head screws (green).



    2. Remove the liner from the door frame, you do not need to pull it all the way off, just the back half of the door. In the back of the door you will find the door latch assembly. Roll up the window to gain access to the latch assembly.



    3. Located in the assembly is the central locking switch, black box with a chromate metal clip.



    4. To removed the clip place a small flathead screw driver under the clip.



    5. Behind the switch there is a metal arm, be sure to keep track of this arm the central locking will not work without it.



    7. This is the central locking switch and metal arm removed from the door, it is not necessary to remove the picture is just for reference.



    8. Once the central locking switch and arm are disconnected, pry the lock clip (pink) away from the lock cylinder. Be sure not to press against the central locking switch bracket as it tends to break. It is best to brace the arm against part of the inner skin of the door.



    9. Once removed, the lock assembly will come out.





    10. Once removed it is clear to see why this double lock was not working.



    11. The replacement lock, on the right, will not break as there are less parts.



    12. Use a pick, or small nail, to remove the roll pin holding the lock cylinder together.



    13. Before removing the lock tumbler from the assembly, be sure to have the key insterted as the key pins need to stay in order. (in this case the key was broken inside the lock)



    14. On the left is a double lock assembly, on the right a passenger side key.

    You may note that there are more pins (12) in the double lock tumbler than the passenger lock (8 ). This is not a problem. Only the first 8 pins are needed to retro the replacement lock.



    15. In this project, since the key was broken, a new key was used and the tumbler was rekeyed to match. The green marks note where the pin is not correct.



    16. There are only 4 different pins, note that the distance from the slot to the bottom of the pin (where the number is stamped) is different for each pin. This makes it very easy to rekey the lock. If the pin is too high replace it with a larger number, if the pin is too low (meaning high on the backside) replace it with a smaller number pin.

    In a case where the key will be reused, rekeying the new tumbler is as easy as removing the pins from one lock and replacing the pins in the new lock.



    17. Now is a good time to clean and lube the tumbler. I have found that it is best to sand each pin with 300grit sand paper to remove old dry lubrication. It is also helpful to remove the springs from the tumble, they are very small, and spray the tumbler with brake clean to remove any grit. Place a small amount of grease on each pin, I have found that Sylglide works best. Sylglide is used to lubricate brake caliper sliders.

    Before reassembling the lock, make sure the pins are flush with the outside of the tumbler. Try to turn the tumbler several times inside the lock cylinder to make sure all the pins are correct. It may be difficult at first but this is only temporary.



    18. The hole in the door only allows the assembly to orient in one direction. To this, you will need to make sure the lever is on correctly.

    As a short cut, it is easiest to remove the pass lock (given that it matches the set) turn the arm 180 degrees and use it as the drivers door lock. To do this, the remaining steps will need to be followed.





    19. To return the lock to center, there is a clock spring that will need to be placed correctly, with either tab of the spring located as pictured



    20. The final step is needed to hold the lock assembly in place. The distance from the back face of the lock assembly is different from the double lock to the replacement lock.

    Double lock:


    Passenger Lock:


    21. Remove the excess material using a Dremel and a cutting wheel.



    22. The spacing does not need to be perfect. If the slot is cut too big you may be able to bend the tabs of the lock clip with a flat head screw driver



    23. Reinstall the lock, make sure the central locking bracket is in between the door and the lock clip. Install the lock clip with the butt end of the hammer. Be careful of the central locking switch bracket



    24. Reinstall the central locking metal arm and switch. Clip the switch in place. This is tricky, it takes some time to get it all in place, but be patient.



    25. Roll down your windows before trying the lock. It’s better to be safe than sorry. It is also a good time to check that the wiring is not in the way of the window mechanism. If the window seems to be stuck, stop and check the wiring.

    26. Reinstall the door panel and the project is done.

    Good luck!
    Last edited by Hick; 10-31-2011, 05:44 AM.


    Originally posted by vlad
    Do you know anybody else who built that many bad ass E30s?

    #2
    Great write up ! Thanks man
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      #3
      awesome write up.. i need to fix two of my cars..

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        #4
        Terrific DIY guide, man...excellent

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          #5
          I think you just showed me why my drivers door does not trip the central locking when I go to lock it, it just locks the drivers door. I'm sure that little spring is the culprit.
          1985 M10b18. 70maybewhpoffury. Over engineered S50b30 murica BBQ swap in progress.

          Originally posted by DEV0 E30
          You'd chugg this butt. I know you would. Ain't gotta' lie to kick it brostantinople.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Holland View Post
            I think you just showed me why my drivers door does not trip the central locking when I go to lock it, it just locks the drivers door. I'm sure that little spring is the culprit.
            Nope, nope...the signal to lock the other doors is from the actuator itself.

            That is why they have 5 wires. 2 input, 1 +12V and 2 output. The outputs tell the central locking module what to do.

            That little microswitch is called the "Unlock Inhibit" switch, I presume its function is obvious just from the name, ya?

            Closing SOON!
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            Luke AT germanaudiospecialties DOT com or text 425-761-6450, or for quickest answers, call me at the shop 360-669-0398

            Thanks for 10 years of fun!

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              #7
              Alright, so I pulled my driver side lock cylinder to diagnose why my driver side door couldn't be locked from the driver side. It has already been rebuilt with the OEM rebuild kit from the dealer. I see that this post notes that the key must fit in with the pins being flush to the cylinder on both sides. I pulled my lock cylinder out too quickly and the pins fell out....I managed to find the pins but I am lost! And to make matters even worse, there are different shaped pins! I have included a picture of the two different pins I'm talking about, please help me guys!

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                #8
                What kind of help are you hoping for?

                This is a good tutorial. It clearly states that there are, in fact, four types of pins. Not only two as you state. They are marked with numbers as you can see in the pictures.

                Your pins did not fall out because the lock cylinder was pulled out too quickly. The pins are held in place by the key. Only when the key is removed are the pins able to release.

                Whatever. It will be necessary for you to experiment with the pins until you find the one combination of pin placement that allows the pins to fit in with the pins being flush to the cylinder on both sides. Just like you said in your post. Easy peasy.

                Kind of like a jig saw puzzle with only, what ... eleven pieces.

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                  #9
                  Dogsbark, clearly there are differences with the pins I posted in the picture. One is slightly more narrow near the bottom. I'm just trying to make sure I'm on the right path.
                  "Never thought I'd ever be able to afford a car, let alone a BMW."

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                    #10
                    Guys, I FIXED IT! :D
                    Thanks to all!
                    "Never thought I'd ever be able to afford a car, let alone a BMW."

                    I love my 325e
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                      #11
                      Thanks for the trick! It worked like a charm. The only thing I have to add is that you have to dremel both sides of the lock! Duh.

                      Thanks again. You saved me some trouble. I only wish I had seen this three days ago. :D
                      -Nick
                      Originally posted by 87e30
                      First of all: calm the fuck down; second of all; cool story bro.

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                        #12
                        good job!
                        Originally posted by Matt-B
                        hey does anyone know anyone who gets upset and makes electronics?

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by JOATiUBER View Post
                          clearly there are differences with the pins I posted in the picture. One is slightly more narrow near the bottom. I'm just trying to make sure I'm on the right path.
                          Correct.

                          There are two different types of driver's door lock cylinders -- those with (the longer one on the left), and those without (shorter on the right) the "double-lock" feature.



                          The longer "double-lock" cylinder has 11 tumblers, versus the shorter non-double-lock cylinder which has only 8.

                          The first 3 (or 4?) of the 11 tumblers in the longer double-lock cylinder have the narrower notched ends (see image with first two tumblers removed) compared to the remaining tumblers which all seem to have rounded smooth ends.



                          So, yes. "JOATiUBER" has a valid point. There do appear to be two different types of tumblers, with notched ends or smooth ends. Each can have different shapes but they should all have an identifying number stamped into them.

                          If you get them mixed them up, you'll have to use trial and error to get them back in the correct order. The objective is to get them all to retract flush when the key is fully inserted.

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                            #14
                            Here's a tech article I wrote a while back explaining how the "double-lock" cylinder works, and why it eventually will jam or maybe work in only one direction, either locking but not unlocking, or unlocking but not locking the door.

                            See: http://e30world.com/body/BMW-E30-lock-cylinder-repair


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                              #15
                              Thanks for sharing this useful information. It is a big help for those who are working into it and they could easily fix these stuffs.

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                              Last edited by HenryEvans; 07-19-2012, 06:49 PM.

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