H&R Ride height request with a twist

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  • Ruffian
    Grease Monkey
    • Oct 2003
    • 378

    #1

    H&R Ride height request with a twist

    Hoping someone with the H&R race/billie sport set-up could give me a quick measurement.

    Wheel center to zenith of the front wheel arch.

    thanks in advance.



    Need a new ball joint for my car which currently rides on Mtechnic springs(pink paint mark not sport). Bonus if anyone knows the spring rate for the mtechnic springs. Trying to see how much more drop I'd see with an upgrade to the spec set-up.
    Keith

    "Die feine Art, schnell zu sein."
    "I don't have a gambling problem, my gambling pays for my e30 addiction."
  • Philo
    Ich esse kleine Kinder
    • Oct 2008
    • 3334

    #2
    If it hasn't been answered by morning, I will try to help you out.
    -tim
    Originally posted by Jordan
    I like the stance
    -Coining hip terms since 10/9/03

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    • Ruffian
      Grease Monkey
      • Oct 2003
      • 378

      #3
      Thank you. I don't want to the top of the wheel well, just from the arch to the wheel center.

      I figure that's really the only way to truly tell ride height since wheel and tire combos will affect your height in differing degrees.
      Keith

      "Die feine Art, schnell zu sein."
      "I don't have a gambling problem, my gambling pays for my e30 addiction."

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      • Philo
        Ich esse kleine Kinder
        • Oct 2008
        • 3334

        #4
        Distance from center of wheel to zenith is just about 12.25" or 31.1cm. I measured both fenders with the end of the tape on the bottom of the arch with the reading to the center of the wheel. Suspension geometry is based on Billy sports, HR race (no spring pads), stock oem top mounts (not the raised aftermarket OEM), M3 cabs, lemforder ties and CA, and US baskets with stock tire size.

        Sorry for the reply lag. I'm a lazy ass.
        -tim
        Originally posted by Jordan
        I like the stance
        -Coining hip terms since 10/9/03

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        • Hellabad
          E30 Modder
          • Aug 2008
          • 807

          #5
          Zenith is an awesome word.


          Jay
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          • Philo
            Ich esse kleine Kinder
            • Oct 2008
            • 3334

            #6
            Fuck yes it is. That's why I used it again. :)
            -tim
            Originally posted by Jordan
            I like the stance
            -Coining hip terms since 10/9/03

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            • gverelli
              Mod Crazy
              • Dec 2008
              • 772

              #7
              Originally posted by Philo
              Distance from center of wheel to zenith is just about 12.25" or 31.1cm. I measured both fenders with the end of the tape on the bottom of the arch with the reading to the center of the wheel. Suspension geometry is based on Billy sports, HR race (no spring pads), stock oem top mounts (not the raised aftermarket OEM), M3 cabs, lemforder ties and CA, and US baskets with stock tire size.

              Sorry for the reply lag. I'm a lazy ass.


              Nice measurements. Although what is the thickness of the springs pad upfront (would have same setup with pads).

              Thanks.


              G.Verelli

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              • Hellabad
                E30 Modder
                • Aug 2008
                • 807

                #8
                Originally posted by gverelli
                Nice measurements. Although what is the thickness of the springs pad upfront (would have same setup with pads).

                Thanks.
                Most e30 pads are nominal 3mm thick, and crush down to 2.5, so for the front figure about 5mm for both pads added. (rear is not the same)

                JM from GC
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                • Philo
                  Ich esse kleine Kinder
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 3334

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Hellabad
                  Most e30 pads are nominal 3mm thick, and crush down to 2.5, so for the front figure about 5mm for both pads added. (rear is not the same)

                  JM from GC
                  Yep. The front is still to high on a late model - for me anyways. Once I get a bit of money I'll be Pm'ng you for some GC plates.

                  Jay, would it be possible for you to get actual measurements of how much drop is gained by the plates?
                  -tim
                  Originally posted by Jordan
                  I like the stance
                  -Coining hip terms since 10/9/03

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                  • Ruffian
                    Grease Monkey
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 378

                    #10
                    Thanks for the measurement Philo. Good stuff. I currently came in at 14.5" with a quick spot. With my rs001's I think I have 55 series on them now, that's going to be close without a fender roll.
                    Keith

                    "Die feine Art, schnell zu sein."
                    "I don't have a gambling problem, my gambling pays for my e30 addiction."

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                    • constructor
                      E30 Modder
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 977

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Ruffian
                      Thanks for the measurement Philo. Good stuff. I currently came in at 14.5" with a quick spot. With my rs001's I think I have 55 series on them now, that's going to be close without a fender roll.
                      You should have no issues with that set up. You won't need to roll your fenders. I believe am lower than that on GC coilovers (lowest setting with GC camber plates, strut housing not shortened) with RS003's and 225/45-16 tires, no rolled fenders and have very few issues. I assume your tires are 205.
                      Last edited by constructor; 11-05-2009, 09:25 AM.

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