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    ok


    fiiiinally got parts from machine shop, dayumn 3 months to make crank complete to fit in..

    ok, assembled 1 piston again, now with timing belt etc
    piston 2 valve distance looks veery promising, I'm happy
    intake about 5+mm, exhaust ~4.5, so very good..


    but, not so good about piston to head clearance :D

    mathematically
    206.2+2.05=208.25
    45+135+27.8=207.80
    208.25-207.8=0.45mm and as we know head gasket will be thinner when head will be torqued

    this is how piston looks @ TDC with used 1.75 HG


    something like this with clay




    I will use 2.05 thickness HG, but that's pretty minimal more than this
    so what should I do? thinking of, machining liittle bit off piston edge, what you think?


    and how much is normal to shave off oil pump shaft?
    1..2 mm ?


    that's all for this moment..
    http://instagram.com/mundieriss
    my 88' m20b30 HERE!

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      depends on rods but D18mm near where the rod should goes by works with m52 style rods and many aftermarket. you only need a local scallop
      89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

      new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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        Originally posted by digger View Post
        depends on rods but D18mm near where the rod should goes by works with m52 style rods and many aftermarket. you only need a local scallop
        ok, I will check it. and Im using m52 rods, yes.

        but Digger, what you think about that small piston to head distance and machining piston edge off lil bit?
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        my 88' m20b30 HERE!

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          You should machine them. It's only going to be close near the edge. If you add the coorect chamfer style around the circumference you might even get some squish to.
          89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

          new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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            One of my favorite threads for sure.

            Also, for the record... I use this gif all the time:


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              Originally posted by zwill23 View Post
              One of my favorite threads for sure.

              Also, for the record... I use this gif all the time:

              [IMG]https://i.makeagif.com/media/1-11-2016/V2mi_U.gif[IMG]
              oh, nice to hear :)
              dayumn, that was so long ago :D

              also, while I was waiting for engine parts, finally changed o rings for heater


              ..what you do when your work light breaks?
              you improvise..
              http://instagram.com/mundieriss
              my 88' m20b30 HERE!

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                sooo, cut some material from pistons
                1 x 5 mm off from piston edge
                now it looks more promising :D
                so now it should be about 1,+ mm distance piston to head




                also shaved oil pump shaft :D


                so with distances between parts everything looks promising, but
                CR is pretty high, 11,4:1 but I hope e98 + management tuneup will help to run without detonation :D

                stay tuund
                http://instagram.com/mundieriss
                my 88' m20b30 HERE!

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                  gonna run thr 1.75mm gasket?

                  did you check the rod to shaft clearance after machining it?
                  89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

                  new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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                    Originally posted by digger View Post
                    gonna run thr 1.75mm gasket?

                    did you check the rod to shaft clearance after machining it?
                    no, I will use 2,05mm HG

                    yes, abooout 3mm. sticked clay round the shaft :D
                    http://instagram.com/mundieriss
                    my 88' m20b30 HERE!

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                      :D


                      so after got all parts modified it was time to put it all together :D


                      assembled block


                      bought oil scraper
                      but it needed some machining done to fit :D
                      at start, already some bits cut off


                      and my version for 90mm crank :D


                      I always thought that I have ''light'' one of m20 flywheels, but seems like i was wrong :D
                      so, took this one of my mates e28 m20b20


                      so next...let's put it in


                      we put block in, everything looks ok, rotated etc, torqued down gearbox with engine, tested clutch...its ok, gone back to engine...aaand it wont rotate :D
                      just liiitle bit unscrewed gearbox bolts and it started to rotate, dayumn..block out :D

                      gearbox primary shaft was pressing crank forward, so it stopped in axial shafts
                      no big deal, cut 5mm's off gearbox primary shaft, and everything is fine :D


                      beauty of m20


                      and all in one piece


                      the view of front pulley
                      used 12.9 bolts from market, torqued as m57 spec 40nm +60 +60degrees, but seems like they are stretching, so I will replace them with shortened old head bolts


                      and of course...first start video
                      coils was not fully plugged on, so engine was not working as it should,
                      later fixed that problem


                      done some test drive, feels pretty nice :D
                      only it needs new tuneup, seems like it wants to detonate on more load, so driving pretty safely now.

                      HG collection + 2 out of photo


                      http://instagram.com/mundieriss
                      my 88' m20b30 HERE!

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                        looking good.

                        for the bolts torque to angle changes with length so if the bolts are shorter length then you cant torque the same amount. are OE bolts from m57 too long or too short?


                        what crank scraper is that? ishihara johnson?

                        yeah makes sure you get it tuned nicely i think it will be very sensitive to knock (high CR and different dome). what ECU do you have looks like you are running a MAF?
                        Last edited by digger; 04-08-2017, 09:35 PM.
                        89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

                        new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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                          Originally posted by digger View Post
                          looking good.

                          for the bolts torque to angle changes with length so if the bolts are shorter length then you cant torque the same amount. are OE bolts from m57 too long or too short?


                          what crank scraper is that? ishihara johnson?

                          yeah makes sure you get it tuned nicely i think it will be very sensitive to knock (high CR and different dome). what ECU do you have looks like you are running a MAF?
                          thanks.

                          mm, yes, you are right, I actually didn't thought about that.
                          OE M57 is M10X86, mines M10x100, that means max torque to these bolts should be bit less, right?

                          really don't know, bought it used from forum.

                          yup, guy who tunes my car knows what to do with these bosch managements. his car has m50bxx twin turbo with the same m50 nv management(of course there is some modifications done in ecu, but still) and makes about 800hp, already few seasons driving with this setup, only now changed management to Russians Abit aka Corvet ecu.

                          As it was before, I use complete m50 non-vanos management.
                          Last edited by abit; 04-09-2017, 04:08 AM.
                          http://instagram.com/mundieriss
                          my 88' m20b30 HERE!

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                            and some not so good news
                            Last edited by abit; 04-09-2017, 08:05 AM.
                            http://instagram.com/mundieriss
                            my 88' m20b30 HERE!

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                              with the different gear and damper it looks like it needed longer bolts to get the proper thread engagement? after you fix the threads with helicoil or similar i would just torque it upto a torque value Nm appropriate for a M10 rather than a torque angle

                              yeah i forgot you had M50 management
                              89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

                              new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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                                oh.. this is an head bolt, not from damper :(
                                dont know why this happened. seems like that was that sound I heard after second start up. this happened when engine was already turned off, just standing. all head bolts torqued to 90nm last stage, these are 12.9 hex bolts. i know many others who torque them to theese nm, so, again, problems...
                                http://instagram.com/mundieriss
                                my 88' m20b30 HERE!

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