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    #16
    Originally posted by ttrousdell View Post
    Thats why I bought this shirt last year
    I have the same shirt. I really want to know more about the car. If it was connected with Alpina, why no Alpina aero? Was it just engine mods?

    We need more info!

    side note: this makes me want to tear off my late model rear valence and just rock the late model bumper with the naked ass
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      #17
      They used both E30 323i and 325i in the local Group A touring cars up until 87 when the M3 took over. The worked M20's sounded good and performed well on tighter tracks even though they only had ~250hp.



      Last edited by Hooffenstein HD; 12-29-2016, 06:01 AM.

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          #19
          Originally posted by 2mAn View Post
          I have the same shirt. I really want to know more about the car. If it was connected with Alpina, why no Alpina aero? Was it just engine mods?
          As far as I know, there was no connection to Alpina, other than the fact that they were sponsored by a dealership that also sold Alpinas.

          As for the stock BMW aero, I'm guessing either (a) Alpina aero wasnt any better than stock or (b) Alpina didn't build enough cars to meet homologate rules.
          Last edited by Emre; 12-22-2016, 07:15 PM.
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            #20
            Originally posted by Hooffenstein HD View Post
            They used both E30 323i and 325i in the local Group A touring cars up until 87 when the M3 took over. The worked M20's sounded good and performed well on tighter tracks even though they only had ~250hp.

            How cool. Thanks for sharing - watching part 2 now. Looks like a really neat time in racing!

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              #21
              250 hp NA M20......I like that...

              would love to see how the underside of that car is built......
              I love sitting down and just driving!

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                #22
                Originally posted by JRKOUPE View Post
                250 hp NA M20......I like that...

                would love to see how the underside of that car is built......
                Im with you. Just guessing but being a racecar in '86 its probably an 84/85 model. My guess is that it weighed around a ton max and with 250bhp it should really move.

                Looking at pics, looks like it has the "jimmy hill" lip up front, but not much else in the name or "aero" at all

                Im very curious about this car
                Simon
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                  #23
                  I dig that lip.....

                  never ever heard of a Jimmy Hill lip.......ever....lol
                  I love sitting down and just driving!

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                    #24
                    Thanks for sharing....pretty cool!
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                      #25
                      I love the way the fender lips are rolled and pulled on this car.

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                        #26


                        Translated:

                        Motor:
                        -6 Cylinder Inline Motor from a 325i with Race Pistons and Camshaft
                        -Displacement 2.494 L
                        -Power 226-236 HP
                        -2 Valve per cylinder, aluminum cylinder head
                        -Watercooled
                        -Bosch Fuel Injection

                        Suspension / Drivetrain:
                        -Front independent 2-link strut, coilovers, sway-bar.
                        -Rear independent trailing arms, Bilstein coilovers.
                        -Vented front and rear brake rotors.
                        -Single disk sintered metal Clutch
                        -5 Speed transmission
                        -Rear wheel drive with 70% lockup LSD
                        -3 piece Ronal wheels
                        -Goodyear tires 235/590 -16

                        Weight:
                        -950Kg (DTM Homologation weight spec)

                        Chassis:
                        -Stock 325i with aluminum roll cage

                        Top Speed:
                        -240 km/h depending on setup


                        230hp from pistons and a cam. Pretty impressive, I wish there was an engine bay pic.
                        Other than that it looks like it's basically stock suspension apart from the rear coil-on-shock coilovers.

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                          #27
                          great info....





                          JUST pistons and a cam????......230/240 hp........dont be so sure...lol
                          I love sitting down and just driving!

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                            #28
                            I think that estimate is a little ambitious but from what Ive seen, if he bumped the compression over 10:1 it definitely will see a big jump in power, add in a cam that breathes in a lot more air and I see 200+ no problem
                            Simon
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by JRKOUPE View Post
                              great info....





                              JUST pistons and a cam????......230/240 hp........dont be so sure...lol


                              You'd be surprised what lots of compression and a huge cam can do. Id suspect high comp pistons not sure what m20 can handle. I'd guess around 11 or 12:1 and a big cam like 316 or higher. Id wanna know what that things rev limit was and what they did for a timing belt.


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                                #30
                                Very interesting. I loved reading about Olaf Manthey DTM history back in the day.
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