^you bring up a lot of good points and I highly doubt there will be any meaningful cuts to defense spending. we're not getting a good value for what we spend, nor are the human costs worth it.
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Originally posted by BraveUlysses View Post^you bring up a lot of good points and I highly doubt there will be any meaningful cuts to defense spending. we're not getting a good value for what we spend, nor are the human costs worth it.
Real libertarianism, imo, would take a full on revolution for us to implement. An entire reboot in how people think and then a reboot on how those new ideals are implemented. Otherwise we will be stuck with the cultural collectivism that we're stuck with today.
I've listened to him during a Stossel Libertarian debate. There were a lot of 'we'll figure it out' answers but at least the honesty was there.Last edited by Dozyproductions; 05-06-2016, 08:08 AM.
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Originally posted by BobombETA View PostI identify with a lot Libertarian principles, but I just can't get behind Free Market Environmentalism... Anyone want to convince me that it works?
The same principle applies for "libertarian" government. Can anyone name a current country that is successfully operating in a small-government libertarian format? I can think of lots of countries with very limited government size and roles, but they're all 3rd world countries and far from what I'd consider successful. Similarly all of the world's most successful/powerful/wealthy/high-standard-of-living countries are nowhere close to libertarian, and all rely on strong governments to provide services to their citizens.
It comes down to practice vs theory. Theory is great, but if it cannot work (or does not exist) in practice, then it's not very applicable, is it?
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Originally posted by djjerme View Postderegulation is a double-edged sword at times. Having witnessed it first hand in Radio Broadcasting..
When they dereg'd the industry in '96, it opened the door for the media giants to take over the industry (Clear Channel, CBS..etc.) which resulted in centralization of content and the loss of regionalized programming.
20 years later, the industry is essentially dead.
But then again, maybe this is a good thing. It's become so unprofitable to own/operate a radio station with a lot of overhead, that the major conglomerates are shedding smaller market stations like bad pennies. They are being picked up and ran again by local interest. One of my former Program Directors at KUPL here in Portland actually left Dial Global and moved back to Longview and purchased several stations there. He's living out his dream in his home town.
So maybe it did work out in the end?Si vis pacem, para bellum.
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Originally posted by marshallnoise View PostClear Channel is about to go bankrupt though. And that's a great thing for radio. That is the way the free market is supposed to work.
Guess this Gary Johnson kept it real while being Governor. I know the native american's got some gambling rights over his tenure.
Did stumble upon this though. No idea about the validity of this information. Is there anyone from NM on r3v that wants to say something about the guy.
<p>The piece sent "<a href="http://www.market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=210803" target="_blank">over the transom</a>" taking a shot at Governor Johnson's possible motives for running as a Libertarian contains some
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That's what I thought too. It's SO easy to pick apart the lies mainstream candidates make but some how people want to gravitate towards the straws some one is picking over genuine candidates like this. Still need scrutiny though!
I really hope Trump has another IDGAF moment and pressures GJ to be on the debate along side him and hillary ;)
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Originally posted by Dozyproductions View PostThere was a former general for the Marine Corps (between 1898-1931), Smedley Butler who wrote the book, 'War is a Racket'.... snip
Notice the caps, in addition to the proper spelling. the men who have served in the Corps deserve to have the name used correctly.
Thank You.Last edited by 2761377; 05-05-2016, 04:24 PM.
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Originally posted by 2761377 View PostSorry, but while I mostly agree with your point of view the proper usage of the bolded phrase is important enough to call you out.
Notice the caps, in addition to the proper spelling. the men who have served in the Corps deserve to have the name used correctly.
Thank You.
I have to ask, which part did you agree. Where you in the services? If so, and if a libertarian were to come aboard, what do you think the men and women serving think about that? We can already guess what the pentagon would think... They'd be like, "hey CIA, can you do the thing you did with the jfk dude?"Last edited by Dozyproductions; 05-06-2016, 09:24 AM.
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^^^ well, my agreement with you is mostly based on the totality of your presence on this forum. I'm actually a registered Libertarian so I like the way you think.
In my experience, Service members in the United States have great deference for Constitutional authority. Whoever takes the oath of office as President is the C-in-C.
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FWIW most of my friends that are in the military are scared to death, petrified actually of hilldog becoming CinC and are not big fans of the idea of trump either, but in their minds he would be the slightly lesser of the 2 evilsOriginally posted by FusionIf a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken
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Originally posted by CorvallisBMW View PostWell the best way to know if a political theory "works" or not is to try and identify a working example somewhere in the world. So think of all of the world's countries, and identify which ones are leading with respect to environmental protection/preservation. Are any of them doing it entirely through "free market environmentalism", where the government plays zero role? Or are they doing it through rules and regulations to prevent environmental exploitation and degradation? I think you'll find an answer fairly quickly.
The same principle applies for "libertarian" government. Can anyone name a current country that is successfully operating in a small-government libertarian format? I can think of lots of countries with very limited government size and roles, but they're all 3rd world countries and far from what I'd consider successful. Similarly all of the world's most successful/powerful/wealthy/high-standard-of-living countries are nowhere close to libertarian, and all rely on strong governments to provide services to their citizens.
It comes down to practice vs theory. Theory is great, but if it cannot work (or does not exist) in practice, then it's not very applicable, is it?
It's a catch 22 by now. We all have seen the 60 minutes or those investigative reporters 'go behind the scenes' of who is actually writing the laws. You see that our senators and congressmen are going in rooms with lobbyists and, being generous here, they hash it out together. So when we want more regulation... so do those industries that are about to be newly regulated. Anything that is coming out of Washington, that is told to be good for the people, must be exponentially good for business.
To cut to the chase, my parents lived in communist Poland and from second hand, I know it enough to be leaning for a more Gary Johnson candidate. This is why I don't like things like the EU, UN and certain trade deals and happenings in the US. The problem with being a libertarian, is that as long as money is king, no political system (beyond an authoritarian) can work in this day and age.
Footnote: Environmental libertarianism, theoretically, can work under the idea of property rights. Polluting one part of the stream or air is lowering the value of that same natural resource for others. That would be, and supposedly should still be one of the main functions of government.
Originally posted by 2761377 View Post^^^ well, my agreement with you is mostly based on the totality of your presence on this forum. I'm actually a registered Libertarian so I like the way you think.
In my experience, Service members in the United States have great deference for Constitutional authority. Whoever takes the oath of office as President is the C-in-C.Originally posted by mrsleeve View PostFWIW most of my friends that are in the military are scared to death, petrified actually of hilldog becoming CinC and are not big fans of the idea of trump either, but in their minds he would be the slightly lesser of the 2 evilsLast edited by Dozyproductions; 05-07-2016, 12:20 PM.
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Originally posted by mrsleeve View PostFWIW most of my friends that are in the military are scared to death, petrified actually of hilldog becoming CinC and are not big fans of the idea of trump either, but in their minds he would be the slightly lesser of the 2 evils
Hillary you can be assured is more than willing to use the military to it's full capacity, which seems to be something that military guys typically like and approve of.
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Originally posted by BraveUlysses View PostHard to really know with trump because his stated views literally change with the wind.
Hillary you can be assured is more than willing to use the military to it's full capacity, which seems to be something that military guys typically like and approve of.Si vis pacem, para bellum.
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