R3VLimited Forums

Go Back   R3VLimited Forums > E34/E28 Forums > General 5 Series Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 02-06-2016, 09:02 PM   #1
Gaode
Member
 
Gaode's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 47
E34 540i valley pan gasket

What's up.
I've been doing some maintenance on a recently purchased 540i, and I got down under the intake to the valley pan. After taking it out and cleaning it and then wanting to re install it, I came to find that a gasket for this is not sold separate from the valley pan? Even after looking online and doing a little research i found out that the only way to get the gasket is to buy a whole new valley pan with the gasket attached to it, which is a little pricey. However...
I found a place that DOES sell the gasket separately! ($17.81) much better than 70-90 for the whole thing.

https://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E34-54..._4.0L/ES19366/


I just got it in the mail and will be putting it on soon. I will repost later and give some feedback about it.
Has anyone else ran into this issue or had experience with this?
Discuss

__________________
Gaode is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2016, 09:03 PM   #2
Gaode
Member
 
Gaode's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 47
__________________
Gaode is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2016, 01:41 PM   #3
straight6pwr
No R3VLimiter
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Milwaukee,WI Stance: ha
Posts: 3,413
Send a message via AIM to straight6pwr
i was unaware you could just get the gasket. i did research on this a few months ago because i need to do this job as well, and even then it was only the whole pan or nothing.

was it the correct piece? were you successful cleaning up the old pan to prepare for the gasket? also, i see you removed the coolant crossover pipe instead of the water pump, how hard were those bolts to remove/install?
__________________

Last edited by straight6pwr; 02-12-2016 at 02:00 PM.
straight6pwr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2016, 06:08 PM   #4
TimeMachinE30
No R3VLimiter
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: DC
Posts: 3,131
I've seen the valley pan rarely is an issue. The gasket is the part needing service.

Good write up on the e38.org site.
__________________
ACS S3 Build / Dinan 5 E34


Say no to panjo.
TimeMachinE30 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-23-2016, 09:51 AM   #5
marshallnoise
R3VLimited
 
marshallnoise's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Oceanside, CA
Posts: 2,583
That's not a good gasket for this job. Well I don't know that for sure. But the new and improved valley pan comes with a rubberized gasket. In it's place, I used "The Right Stuff" gasket maker with success (the second time) on my original valley pan.

straight6pwr, the coolant manifold, which is what the OP removed, is easy to remove. If you do the water pump, there is more crap in the way, but it's all right in front of you. Six in one, half dozen in the other.
__________________
Si vis pacem, para bellum.

New Hawtness: 1995 540i/6 Claptrap
Defunct too: Cirrusblau m30 Project
Defunct (sold): Alta Vista

79 Bronco SHTF Build
marshallnoise is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2016, 10:46 AM   #6
Gaode
Member
 
Gaode's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 47
Quote:
Originally Posted by marshallnoise View Post
That's not a good gasket for this job. Well I don't know that for sure. But the new and improved valley pan comes with a rubberized gasket. In it's place, I used "The Right Stuff" gasket maker with success (the second time) on my original valley pan.

straight6pwr, the coolant manifold, which is what the OP removed, is easy to remove. If you do the water pump, there is more crap in the way, but it's all right in front of you. Six in one, half dozen in the other.

Ya I already tried doing it with a gasket maker the first time and its leaking already so this is take 2.. What's the new improved valley pan with a rubber gasket? How can u tell if you're getting the improved one?
__________________
Gaode is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2016, 10:47 AM   #7
Gaode
Member
 
Gaode's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 47
I haven't started the job yet, so I'd like to get as much info before I do it, so I don't have to do it a third time lol..
__________________
Gaode is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2016, 03:57 PM   #8
straight6pwr
No R3VLimiter
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Milwaukee,WI Stance: ha
Posts: 3,413
Send a message via AIM to straight6pwr
the gasket from ECS tuning looks like a part that wont work. see post #30 here

http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/sh...6#post26956796
__________________

Last edited by straight6pwr; 02-24-2016 at 08:21 PM.
straight6pwr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2016, 08:45 AM   #9
Gaode
Member
 
Gaode's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 47
Well that's sucks. Glad I know before I started and then got all frustrated.
So what do u guys think is the best solution for the valley pan?
__________________
Gaode is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2016, 09:31 AM   #10
marshallnoise
R3VLimited
 
marshallnoise's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Oceanside, CA
Posts: 2,583
I know you said you used RTV of some variety, but I promise you, "The Right Stuff" is the gasket maker of choice for this very project. That's what I used. I too had to do it twice, but my first failure was not from the gasket maker; it was from my inability to properly torque the valley pan bolts. The second time I used "The Right Stuff" and just snugged all the bolts by hand, it's been nice and tight.
__________________
Si vis pacem, para bellum.

New Hawtness: 1995 540i/6 Claptrap
Defunct too: Cirrusblau m30 Project
Defunct (sold): Alta Vista

79 Bronco SHTF Build
marshallnoise is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2016, 12:50 PM   #11
Gaode
Member
 
Gaode's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 47
Quote:
Originally Posted by marshallnoise View Post
I know you said you used RTV of some variety, but I promise you, "The Right Stuff" is the gasket maker of choice for this very project. That's what I used. I too had to do it twice, but my first failure was not from the gasket maker; it was from my inability to properly torque the valley pan bolts. The second time I used "The Right Stuff" and just snugged all the bolts by hand, it's been nice and tight.

Ok I'll try that out then. Did u torque them to spec 7 ft. lbs or just hand tight?
__________________
Gaode is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2016, 12:54 PM   #12
marshallnoise
R3VLimited
 
marshallnoise's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Oceanside, CA
Posts: 2,583
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaode View Post
Ok I'll try that out then. Did u torque them to spec 7 ft. lbs or just hand tight?
I'd say more like 20 ft. lbs but hand tight. It's aluminum so be careful, but they gotta be secure. And you have to go back over them until they feel even. As you tighten all over the place, the whole thing cinches down.
__________________
Si vis pacem, para bellum.

New Hawtness: 1995 540i/6 Claptrap
Defunct too: Cirrusblau m30 Project
Defunct (sold): Alta Vista

79 Bronco SHTF Build
marshallnoise is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-25-2016, 05:04 PM   #13
Gaode
Member
 
Gaode's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 47
Quote:
Originally Posted by marshallnoise View Post
I'd say more like 20 ft. lbs but hand tight. It's aluminum so be careful, but they gotta be secure. And you have to go back over them until they feel even. As you tighten all over the place, the whole thing cinches down.

Ok I'll do a little tighter. That's just torque specs I found online. Hope it all goes well!

Going to get this
__________________
Gaode is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-26-2016, 11:03 AM   #14
DIIRTY-30
E30 Fanatic
 
DIIRTY-30's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Van Nuys, CA
Posts: 1,463
When I did mine, they sent me the whole unit with the rubber feet. I opt'd and made sure it was strictly OEM after seeing the Reinz version and etc.

Went ahead and torqued it all down to 10lbs, two of the studs were originally seized/sheared off. Did two time serts, forgot the exact length (11 or 13mm i think?). I wouldn't overtorque it though since it is aluminum and once it expands and contracts with metal bolts... yeah no bueno.

On a side note, I think the PO to my motor may not have taken care of his ground straps which lead to slight electrolysis. That's just my hunch though, so take it as a grain of salt.
DIIRTY-30 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2016, 06:36 PM   #15
Gertech
Advanced Member
 
Gertech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Riegelsville, Pa
Posts: 180
I don't have personal experience using that paper gasket, but every time I've done this job I've used a new BMW valley pan with the rubber gasket stuck to it. I don't think I'd dick around with gasket sealer...in my experience it never works well, at least not long term. If you don't want to do the job again, get the BMW valley pan. My .02
Gertech is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:24 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2004 - 2020 R3VLimited LLC