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Old 06-15-2016, 08:36 AM   #916
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After I custom made my own shifter, I find that all short shifters are flaw designed and bad for the transmission whether it is ebay, CAE, everything in between, including my own. I will compose my findings when I finish my R&D in a new design maybe months from now.

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Old 06-16-2016, 01:48 AM   #917
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This is prototype of my own carbon/aluminium shifter. In DTM style.

To end of summer few shifter's will be in few car's, I waiting for aluminium part's right now.



Grey part's on photo are 3d printed, we use them for making form for aluminum casting. Lever will be the same like in m3 DTM.

More detail's soon at my FB site: https://www.facebook.com/Projects.SAS
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Old 06-19-2016, 09:00 AM   #918
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here my shifter m42-g250-dssr-erk-z3m
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Old 06-28-2016, 08:27 PM   #919
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This is a length difference between the X5 shifter and blue eBay B&M replica shifter. I'm going with the eBay part so the X5 shifter will be going up for sale shortly.

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Old 07-13-2016, 09:24 AM   #920
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installed...


here the throw..

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Old 07-13-2016, 05:37 PM   #921
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here the throw..


What dssr do you have paired with it? And do you have a link to where you bought shifter?
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Old 07-13-2016, 06:45 PM   #922
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No shifter cup bro?
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Old 07-14-2016, 10:04 AM   #923
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What dssr do you have paired with it? And do you have a link to where you bought shifter?
I designed and made the DSSR by myself, I can make it for you with custom center to center length + cup
I bought from BLUNTTECH, just email to sales@blunttech.com

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here the cup


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Old 07-15-2016, 03:40 AM   #924
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Cool! Makes for some tight shifting?
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Old 07-15-2016, 07:11 AM   #925
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yes, its precise shifting
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Old 12-06-2016, 06:07 PM   #926
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Ok, I had a chance to sketch this the best I can to explain the CAE or equal shifter design has some flaws geometry wise. I don't own one and never try out the CAE shifter, but looking at its design I don't think it fit well with the BMW design drivetrain. So here it is.

When swinging to left or right in R, 1st, or 5th gear, the lever would swing in the x-axis. At the connection between the selector rod and the shifter arm, it does not rotate to align with the selector rod bushing. Where in a stock form, the ball would rotate very slightly. The way the CAE design seem only has fixed straight angle rotations.

If the shifter is in tight tolerance, something got to give somewhere. It could be in the plastic bushings or something is going to break. Maybe CAE already incoporated some rotations at the pivot point. I don't know. Just my observations.

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Old 12-06-2016, 06:32 PM   #927
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I have been running my custom shifter and noticed that R and 5th gear engagement is not as smooth as I expected to be. The reason is, like all other short shifters, the extra length on the pivot point make going into R and 5th gear in a arkward angle as illustrated in my previous post.

So, I have come up with this design. It can be fully adjustable because the spherical bearing can be set at any length in its pivot point. making it any throw desired.

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Old 12-06-2016, 07:23 PM   #928
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Shift Lever and Short Shifters

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Ok, I had a chance to sketch this the best I can to explain the CAE or equal shifter design has some flaws geometry wise. I don't own one and never try out the CAE shifter, but looking at its design I don't think it fit well with the BMW design drivetrain. So here it is.

When swinging to left or right in R, 1st, or 5th gear, the lever would swing in the x-axis. At the connection between the selector rod and the shifter arm, it does not rotate to align with the selector rod bushing. Where in a stock form, the ball would rotate very slightly. The way the CAE design seem only has fixed straight angle rotations.

If the shifter is in tight tolerance, something got to give somewhere. It could be in the plastic bushings or something is going to break. Maybe CAE already incoporated some rotations at the pivot point. I don't know. Just my observations.

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It does in fact rotate in that direction.
As you move the lever left or right the bottom does in fact have a "yaw" to keep it aligned to the tranny.
If you ever get the chance to try/drive one I'd do it!
I <3 mine!

I also have an AKG "Motorsport" shifter that I'll be installing in my IX in the next couple months. Even though it's a third the cost I'm sure it will feel very comparable.



https://youtu.be/LOMP1awrHog
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Old 12-06-2016, 07:47 PM   #929
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I have no doubt that it is a fantastic shifter. I am just trying to figure out the geometry behind it. Thanks for the action vid.

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It does in fact rotate in that direction.
As you move the lever left or right the bottom does in fact have a "yaw" to keep it aligned to the tranny.
If you ever get the chance to try/drive one I'd do it!
I <3 mine!

I also have an AKG "Motorsport" shifter that I'll be installing in my IX in the next couple months. Even though it's a third the cost I'm sure it will feel very comparable.



https://youtu.be/LOMP1awrHog
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Old 12-16-2016, 12:39 PM   #930
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What's that next to the shifter ? What does it regulate and where did you get it ?
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