H.r. 5741

[joshh]

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-5741

http://rangel.house.gov/2010/07/rangeldraft0716.html

Thoughts?

[Farbin Kaiber]

I knew it was coming. Mandatory Volunteer service. Sounds like a government program to me.

[Bimmerman325i]

Pertinent information, notice in what years the bill has been introduced before.

The bill, which the Congressman first introduced in 2003 as the nation prepared for the invasion of Iraq, and offered again in 2004, 2006, and 2007, provides for:
• A national service obligation--either military or civilian--for every citizen and permanent resident, male and female, of the U.S., aged 18 to 42.
• Persons may inducted to perform military service only if a declaration of war is in effect, or if the President declares a national emergency necessitating the induction of persons to perform military service and immediately informs Congress of the reasons for the declaration.
• Defines "national service" as either military or civilian service as defined by the President that promotes national or homeland security.
• Give the President the authority to establish the numbers of persons to be selected for military service and the means of selection.
• Requires those not selected for military service to perform their national service obligation in a civilian capacity for a period of two years.
• Directs the President to prescribe the regulations necessary to carry out the act.
• Deferments for education are only permitted through completion of high school, to a maximum age of 20.
• Deferments may be made for physical or mental disability, or under claims of conscientious objector.

The bill has been introduced before, in 2003, 2004, 2006, 2007, and now in 2010. Not related to Obama, please note that all prior years were when Bush was in power.

Just saying, it's not a new bill designed to bring about teh socializmz

[Farbin Kaiber]

^ But it's been backed by a large scale Dem the whole time. One who has money issues.

[joshh]

Pertinent information, notice in what years the bill has been introduced before.



The bill has been introduced before, in 2003, 2004, 2006, 2007, and now in 2010. Not related to Obama, please note that all prior years were when Bush was in power.

Just saying, it's not a new bill designed to bring about teh socializmz

It was and seems to have always been Rangel's bill. Rangel however was at the Union/Communist/Socialist rally this last weekend. It doesn't have to be Obama pushing the Socialism issue.

But my question is why do we need this when all we need to do is get the draft rocking if we ever needed it? And 18-42 year olds? Also note it says "and for other purposes". Isn't that why we have the national guard?

[Ryan Stewart]

Meh, its a non-story. Rangel does this just to go back to his constituents (who dont know what that word means) and say that he is fighting for them against those rich white people who do nothing but play tennis all day in the Hamptons. Everyone ignores him because he is a douche and it just dies, but at least he can say he is fighting the good fight.

[Wiglaf]

I don't think he understands how many people would enlist if there was a serious situation which put our homeland in danger. The current war most people don't believe in, half the guys over there are just doing it for a paycheck+perks.
People aren't dumb, if we're needed then we'll be there.

[joshh]

Meh, its a non-story. Rangel does this just to go back to his constituents (who dont know what that word means) and say that he is fighting for them against those rich white people who do nothing but play tennis all day in the Hamptons. Everyone ignores him because he is a douche and it just dies, but at least he can say he is fighting the good fight.

I don't think he understands how many people would enlist if there was a serious situation which put our homeland in danger. The current war most people don't believe in, half the guys over there are just doing it for a paycheck+perks.
People aren't dumb, if we're needed then we'll be there.

Agreed on both.