Originally posted by ST1G
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I understand that my analogy was an oversimplification of the situation.
I agree with your points as far as processed food, and knowing what you're actually eating, sugar causing major health issues. I disagree with the organic argument, I have not read any research that persuades me that organic or GMO free is better for the body, I do agree with the keep dollars local argument however.
However, your proposed solution does not touch on the issue of losing weight being a product of burning more energy than one consumes. If I eat 4000 calories of organic local kale I'm still not going to lose weight.
I am asking for a BETTER method than counting calories and exercise. It is a fact that with counting calories in and out you can lose weight. It might not be the best method, because as you said it's not very precise, it's less efficient than it could be if we had more precise tools for measurement. But it does work.
Now, I could be mistaken, and you could be suggesting the counting of calories along with the items you outlined earlier
I agree with your points as far as processed food, and knowing what you're actually eating, sugar causing major health issues. I disagree with the organic argument, I have not read any research that persuades me that organic or GMO free is better for the body, I do agree with the keep dollars local argument however.
However, your proposed solution does not touch on the issue of losing weight being a product of burning more energy than one consumes. If I eat 4000 calories of organic local kale I'm still not going to lose weight.
I am asking for a BETTER method than counting calories and exercise. It is a fact that with counting calories in and out you can lose weight. It might not be the best method, because as you said it's not very precise, it's less efficient than it could be if we had more precise tools for measurement. But it does work.
Now, I could be mistaken, and you could be suggesting the counting of calories along with the items you outlined earlier
Excellent that we have several points of agreement! I would certainly recommend looking into a compound called glyphosate (this is the active ingredient in Roundup, which is sprayed heavily on non-organic food).
Here is a link to a webpage discussing glyphosate and the organic/non-organic discussion.
As a quick note, from the article: the World Health Organization, in May of 2015 classified glyphosate as "probably carcinogenic to humans". While I understand this is probably not the concrete proof someone like yourself is looking for, I certainly avoid things that are even loosely related with being carcinogenic to my body.
I would really really like to see someone eat 4000 calories of kale. That would be mighty impressive! Though I still think you are missing the idea that calories are not all created equal. Your body does not react to 160 calories of Coca-Cola as it does to 160 calories of Almonds, for a variety of reasons (fiber, blood sugar/insulin response, etc.)
My routine above does not touch on the basis of weight loss explicitly, because it does not have to. I do not count calories, nor do I advocate that anyone else does either. (as a quick aside, that book I previously mentioned by Gary Taubes displays concrete evidence through serious analysis of a vast amount of medical information that counting calories and restricting them does not ALWAYS guarantee weight loss. If this is still a point of contention for you I would strongly recommend at least the cliff notes version of the book. Again, not to sound repetitive or aggravating, trying to treat the body as a simple system does not work.)
The routine I use restricts caloric intake through its very nature, but it does not require you to focus intently or even casually on how many calories your burger or your dinner or your breakfast has, because it is far less important than the ideology of the method itself. The weight loss is a byproduct of the routine, not the focus.
I hope my response answered your questions for you. If not, let me know!
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