WTF Cops and too much force AGAIN

[Cabriolet]

wow, just sickening. if you are an officer and need to use force on a 95 year old man, more than just bare hands, you need to quit/loose your job.

[Jean]

Sad! But hey, what do you expect.....

[MikeDE]

This, sadly enough, is only the beginning...it will become commonplace soon enough and no one will question it happening, And in turn, not question the Police on anything.

[plmichal]

Ftp

[markseven]

Clearly wrong on so many levels.

We need to make hiring requirements incredibly stringent, make the psych eval much more rigorous, and pay a high salary so that we are attracting and recruiting the best candidates for law enforcement.

[mrsleeve]

thats just it they are hiring just what is wanted in the LE community

[nando]

ugh. sorry I had to read that. :(

I'm surprised they didn't mobilize seal team 6 and bring in the tanks..

[mrsleeve]

Seal team might have been a bit much, swat prolly should have been there though so they could have fired 70+ rounds at him from point blank and only hit him 15 times. Or shot at someone else in the wrong make modle color and year wheel chair down the hall while looking for him

[mrsleeve]

I would say its never a good idea to pull a knife on a police officer regardless of your gender, disability status, ethnicity, or age.

Now is this really news? or did you really think some groups were exempt?

I think its fair to say, sadly enough, that all bets were off.

UMMM Reading must be something your not too good at yet, your a fucking MORON 1) the cops are prolly lieing about the knife and 2) even so a 96 year old man that has a hard time moving even holding a knife does not justify a fucking 12ga being used to subdue him....... 3) why were the cops there in the 1st place do you really think 6-7 cops in riot gear is a appropriate response to a 96 year old man being grumpy and swinging a cane and shoe horn???? Because he was emotionally distraught about a risky surgery.

Fucking tool

the relevant parts you seem to have missed about this story have been bolded and underlined for your A.D.H.D. mind to pay attention long enough to grasp............Maybe

A 95-year-old world War II veteran died after being Tasered and hit with bean bag rounds by police for threatening care home staff - but his family insist he was killed unnecessarily.

Police say that John Wrana, who lived in a Chicago assisting living home, was brandishing his cane, a metal shoehorn and a knife before officers shocked him and hit him with bean bag rounds.

The senior citizen had been reported to authorities because he was being 'involuntarily' committed for medical treatment by staff at the Victory Centre, the Chicago Tribune reported.

He was behaving in 'combative' manner, by threatening staff with his cane and a shoehorn. Wrana was reportedly scheduled to undergo a risky surgery, and was apparently afraid to end up on life support.

When police arrived at Park Forest at around 8.45pm, they said he was ordered to surrender, but he refused to and continued to berate staff and threaten them.

Officers claim he then picked up a 6-inch knife, but his family's attorney alleges that care home staff did not see him do this , The Blaze reported.

He was then shocked by a Taser, hit with rounds of bean bag ammunition, and was taken into custody and then to hospital.

Staff claimed that he was sitting in a chair during the row, suggesting that the force used by authorities might not have been warranted, according to The Blaze.

The Chicago Tribune reported that Mr Wrana was conscious when he was taken to St. James Hospital and Health Centers in Chicago Heights.

But he was then moved to Advocate Christ Medical Center in Oak Lawn, where he died at about 2.30am.

The Southtown Star reported that an autopsy found the war veteran died from being shot in the stomach with the 12-gauge shotgun with bean-bag ammo.

The incident was ruled as a homicide by the medical examiner, The Blaze reported.

According to the Wrana family lawyer, Nicholas Grapsas, the 95-year-old was honorably discharged from the U.S. Air Corps in the rank of a sergeant after fighting in India and Burma. During his service in the Pacific, he was shot down once.

After the war, the Massachusetts native moved to California and got into real estate before settling in Glenwood, Illinois.



His wife of more than 30 years, Helen, passed away in 2005. The veteran lived with his 74-year-old stepdaughter, Sharon Mangerson, until his health took a turn for the worse.

An autopsy found that the 95-year-old man died from internal bleeding after being shot in the stomach from a bean-bag gun.

Grapsas and Wrana’s stepdaughter have questioned the official version of events laid out by police, insisting that the elderly man was sitting in his chair the entire time, and neither his family nor staff ever saw a butcher knife in his room.

‘The Japanese military couldn’t get him at the age he was touchable, in a uniform in the war,’ Grapsas told the Tribune. ‘It took 70 years later for the Park Forest police to do the job.’

Grapsas said he was told that between five and seven responding officers came armed with a riot shield commonly used in demonstrations to enter Wrana’s room before shooting him in the stomach.

His stepdaughter described the 95-year-old as a fiercely independent and vital man who still enjoyed playing cards.

According to the Chicago Tribune, Wrana was scheduled to undergo an operation. On the night of the tragic incident, his doctor told Margenson over the phone that even if he survives the surgery, her stepfather will likely end up on life support.

Wrana than got on the phone with Sharon, thanked her for everything she has done for him and told her he loved her before saying goodbye and hanging up. That was the last she's heard of him.

Mr Wrana's family are now deciding whether to file a lawsuit, according to their attorney.

'This was a literal war hero,' Mr Grapas said.

'It’s outright insulting when you have such lack of respect for someone who served our country to the extent he did.'

[illest318i]

This is another reason why I hate the cops with all my heart.

I'm pretty heated right now! :curse:

[Javier h]

Dude

This whole story falls on issues of critical thinking because nothing makes any sense.

First, if there was no danger whatsoever, why where the police called? The hospital called the police for a reason.

Second, there are plenty of male nurses able to handled a 95 year old man, if he needed to be relocated/moved. I am sure they are security people there as well. If you visit these facilities you would know. There are lots of elder people with mental issues and the hospital/facility equip themselves accordingly.

Third, I'm not sticking up for the officers either.

If you google the story, he had a knife (12 inches)....

Assuming that was true, he was a danger to himself and others.

I seriously doubt you would have 6 officers in riot gear because they needed to wheel this guy out. If they needed to just move him, they wouldn't have had this attire.

The reality is that some article are written to inflame. I dont know what really happen but I am not buying the story on the merits of writer trying to sell it.

Finally, consider seeing a therapist man. This really the compelling reason why I even bother to write back on this thread. So much anger. You seem to buy into these stories (somewhat delusional) which suggest you might have a mental illness. I'm not kidding. As a fellow E30 bud, good luck man.

[Stanley Rockafella]

ya gotta take matters in your own hands!

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2013/08/26/bc-stolen-bike-craigslist.html

police ain't good for nothin but handin out tickets and pissin in everyones cheerios

[Farbin Kaiber]

http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2013/08/30/pa-man-shot-for-carrying-boxers-suing-police/

[marco_suarez]

people who resist arrest sometimes die

famous recent case was a son of a police officer, kelly thomas

shit happens.

agree, mssleeve is the Amanda Bines of R3v

done.

[mrsleeve]

Your attempt at insulting me is more of a complement coming from someone making statements like you just have, and from your location.......

and who the fuck are you again ???