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    I tested the S50 headers after the bending operation and when they still didn't fit I came to my senses and bought cheap stainless headers.

    These will also need a slight bending to give a little bit more clearance to front subframe but that's no problem. I already proved that bending headers by heating works in principle.

    After I had the headers in it was time to test fit the exhaust. For that I threw in the rear bumper and the rear valance. Although, I wasn't able to locate the bumper brackets at the moment. I have them in a box somewhere among all the other parts.


    The exhaust is for E36 328i. The front end is unused non-OEM that I bought at the cheap. The rear end is Scorpion stainless catback. I know this will be loud but I expect that to be fun for a while. When I get tired of the noise I'll update the mufflers.


    With the car on jackstands, it's difficult to get good all-around pictures of the exhaust under the car. Working on the exhaust also involves a lot of getting under the car so I bought a creeper to make it nicer.


    People on the internet claimed that the E36 exhaust will fit an E30 but I find that gross overstatement. It is borderline possible to bolt it there but nothing really fits. (Might be just me, though. I have two non-OEM parts). The pipes hang too low between the front muffler and the downpipes, crossing the rear subframe is a bit iffy and the rear muffler is completely in wrong orientation. Also the exhaust tips point in wrong direction. Althought that wouldn't really matter without the M-tech 1 rear apron.




    I decided to redo the pipe between the front muffler and headers and to modify the rear piece to fit the way I want it to. As an end result I'll have custom exhaust almost completely in stainless steel. I won't need to make changes for the section from front muffler to catback connection point so that's where I decided to start. I moved the exhaust lengthwise to best position and fabricated supports for it. I cut the shapes out of 2,5 mm plate, bent them and made pins out of bolts. These were fixed with the heat shield bolts.





    I may still alter the position of bolt holes to place the cats a bit higher up. It will require modifying the pipes a little where they go under the rear subframe but I'll check with the gas tank and heat shield in place before doing that.
    Last edited by Skarpa; 08-05-2017, 02:35 AM.
    E30 Armo "330i"

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      Originally posted by Skarpa View Post
      I tested the S50 headers after the bending operation and when they still didn't fit I came to my senses and bought cheap stainless headers.

      These will also need a slight bending to give a little bit more clearance to front subframe but that's no problem. I already proved that bending headers by heating works in principle.

      After I had the headers in it was time to test fit the exhaust. For that I threw in the rear bumper and the rear valance. Although, I wasn't able to locate the bumper brackets at the moment. I have them in a box somewhere among all the other parts.


      The exhaust is for E36 328i. The front end is unused non-OEM that I bought at the cheap. The rear end is Scorpion stainless catback. I know this will be loud but I expect that to be fun for a while. When I get tired of the noise I'll update the mufflers.


      With the car on jackstands, it's difficult to get good all-around pictures of the exhaust under the car. Working on the exhaust also involves a lot of getting under the car so I bought a creeper to make it nicer.


      People on the internet claimed that the E36 exhaust will fit an E30 but I find that gross overstatement. It is borderline possible to bolt it there but nothing really fits. (Might be just me, though. I have two non-OEM parts). The pipes hang too low between the front muffler and the downpipes, crossing the rear subframe is a bit iffy and the rear muffler is completely in wrong orientation. Also the exhaust tips point in wrong direction. Althought that wouldn't really matter without the M-tech 1 rear apron.




      I decided to redo the pipe between the front muffler and headers and to modify the rear piece to fit the way I want it to. As an end result I'll have custom exhaust almost completely in stainless steel. I won't need to make changes for the section from front muffler to catback connection point so that's where I decided to start. I moved the exhaust lengthwise to best position and fabricated supports for it. I cut the shapes out of 2,5 mm plate, bent them and made pins out of bolts. These were fixed with the heat shield bolts.





      I may still alter the position of bolt holes to place the cats a bit higher up. It will require modifying the pipes a little where they go under the rear subframe but I'll check with the gas tank and heat shield in place before doing that.
      What size are the pipes that you are using? I am in to see how that center section works.
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        Originally posted by Staszek View Post
        What size are the pipes that you are using? I am in to see how that center section works.
        2" (50 mm) outside diameter. Same as the original 328i exhaust.
        Last edited by Skarpa; 06-16-2017, 12:32 PM.
        E30 Armo "330i"

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          Originally posted by Skarpa View Post
          Alright, thanks. i found the Zionsville part also myself and noticed that they don't have it available any more. I did some measurements and it seems that the clutch shaft would actually be able to enter the pilot bearing a few millimeters even in stock position. At the moment I'm contemplating on using a wider than stock bearing (13mm is the maximum width I found) and using a spacer or another bearing behind it to leave the bearing protruding a few mills. I'll use a bit of play-dough or something similar on the clutch shaft and test-fit the transmission to see how much it actually enters the bearing. Measuring it is not so accurate since you need to take several measurements and calculate from there so the measuring errors may sum up.

          And then for something completely different: I just love hove nice the parts sometimes turn just by cleaning them. In this case the drive shaft tunnel heat shield.

          Before:


          After:


          Mint! As they would say in a certain dead roadside animal themed youtube show.

          what did you use to clean with?

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            Originally posted by Redbone View Post
            what did you use to clean with?
            Pineline and hot pressure washing. Then brake cleaner for the most stubborn gunk.
            Last edited by Skarpa; 08-05-2017, 02:36 AM.
            E30 Armo "330i"

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              Originally posted by Skarpa View Post
              Small preview of a thing to come.

              All right, this project is mostly done. I decided I wanted to leave some small visual touch to the engine as well. So I milled and sanded off the BMW logo and some of the ridges in the valve cover plastic.


              Then I took the logo plate I had lasercut and brushed before and fixed it with allen head screws.

              I'm pretty happy with how it came out.
              Last edited by Skarpa; 08-05-2017, 02:38 AM.
              E30 Armo "330i"

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                That beauty cover turned out great.
                How to remove, install or convert to pop out windows
                http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=297611


                Could be better, could be worse.

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                  Originally posted by rzerob View Post
                  That beauty cover turned out great.
                  Thanks!
                  E30 Armo "330i"

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                    Fuck you Photobucket!

                    We have noticed that you have used hotlinking from our site.
                    Yes I have. There's a button on your site specifically for hotlinking pictures to forums.

                    That, however, is not allowed with a free account. Please upgrade to Plus 500 account which costs 400$ per year.
                    So you decided to wait until I have 1500 hotlinked pictures before bringing this up?

                    Fuck you Photobucket!

                    Any recommendations for photoservers which allow hotlinkin with reasonably priced accounts?
                    Last edited by Skarpa; 06-24-2017, 11:57 PM.
                    E30 Armo "330i"

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                      Have you tried using Flikr? It takes some adjusting to get use to but the image quality is superior and you dont have to worry about using upgrading. Well, I havent had to worry about it.

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                        Originally posted by Skarpa View Post
                        Fuck you Photobucket!


                        Yes I have. There's a button on your site specifically for hotlinking pictures to forums.


                        So you decided to wait until I have 1500 hotlinked pictures before bringing this up?

                        Fuck you Photobucket!

                        Any recommendations for photoservers which allow hotlinkin with reasonably priced accounts?
                        I fucking hate photobucket, the site is nothing but a spam-fest, pop-up ads, and scam central now.

                        If I was in your shoes, I would ask James and the other mods, if you can host the images here, since this threat is pure E30 pornography.....
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                          Originally posted by Helical View Post
                          Have you tried using Flikr? It takes some adjusting to get use to but the image quality is superior and you dont have to worry about using upgrading. Well, I havent had to worry about it.
                          Originally posted by delamaize View Post
                          I fucking hate photobucket, the site is nothing but a spam-fest, pop-up ads, and scam central now.

                          If I was in your shoes, I would ask James and the other mods, if you can host the images here, since this threat is pure E30 pornography.....
                          I haven't used or tried any other photo hosting services because Photobucket used to be good when I started using it. When I look at other people's project threads they mostly seem to use flikr, imgur or kuvat.fi in Finland. I ned to do a bit of research and then undertake the massive rehosting process.
                          E30 Armo "330i"

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                            photobucket has been a spam turd for years.
                            dropbox pulled the same cr@p. I have thousands of pic links. considering a move to Flickr.

                            I'm hoping I can talk the admins into doing a global string replace. as long as I keep the same folder structure right? we will see.
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                            OEM+ or bust!


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                              Originally posted by Skarpa View Post
                              I haven't used or tried any other photo hosting services because Photobucket used to be good when I started using it. When I look at other people's project threads they mostly seem to use flikr, imgur or kuvat.fi in Finland. I ned to do a bit of research and then undertake the massive rehosting process.
                              I use Flickr, I just cut out all their URL stuff when I paste the pics over. So far over the last few years no issues and it is built into IOS so I can just quickly upload from my camera role on the iphone.
                              Euro Delivery Thread///E30 Project Klaus///COTM August 2021

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                                I've progressed with the exhaust work quite well. I cleaned off the stubs of pipe from the resonator so I can come in with new pipes.


                                When mocking up the bends it quickly became clear to me that I need to move the front muffler back a bit to have space for the bends behind the transmission. I cut up the brackets I made earlier and moved the hooks about three centimeters back. Now they are pretty patchworky but oh well.


                                I borrowed some stainless wire for the mig from work so I could start tacking the exhaust together.




                                I'm happy with how I got the pipes lined. There's no place where they would be lower than the frame rails and there's at least five centimeters more ground clearance than with the E36 stock exhaust. I use v-bands to join the exhaust to headers. When mocking up things I found good spots for the O2 sensors. I just need to weld bungs for them. The sensors would not fit in the original bungs of the headers plus I don't think they are in a very good place to get an even reading from all the cylinders. I will add a flex joint to one of the headers if it seems I can fit one there. That should prevent the exhaust from twisting when the headers heat up or cool down unevenly.



                                Sorry for the lousy pictures today. It's difficult to get decent pictures under the car.
                                Last edited by Skarpa; 08-05-2017, 02:12 AM.
                                E30 Armo "330i"

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