The Porsche thread.

[LateFan]

Jeezuz. "Shell" is right. Would it be easier / faster to just fab it all from scratch rather than adapt to the 914 I wonder? Does he have a real one available to measure and profile new panels?

[2mAn]

Jeezuz. "Shell" is right. Would it be easier / faster to just fab it all from scratch rather than adapt to the 914 I wonder? Does he have a real one available to measure and profile new panels?

He had the "shell" and a 914 roof and a lot of free time...

He is doing everything based on pictures found on the net, and using an english wheel and a LOT of creativity

[LateFan]

I just breezed through that quickly...wow. That guy's metal skillz are f-ing impressive! I should look up the wheelbase difference and see how close it is - but it looks like he could make it whatever he wants in an afternoon...

[LateFan]

What I found -

914:
WB 96 1/2"
length 160"

904:
WB 90 1/2"
length 161"

[LJ851]

^I'm gonna repost that in the build threads thread, fantastic !

[ThatOneEuroE30]

One day i hope to have a fraction of those metal working skills. That is just amazing

[djjerme]

The 914 had a longer wheelbase? Who knew..

I love seeing old style metal work like that.

[LateFan]

The 914 had a longer wheelbase? Who knew.

Right? Lotta overhang on the 904.

[2mAn]

Have I told you guys that I love 914s??! haha #thebestporschesaremidengine

[LateFan]

Some 904 images from that second build thread on 914world -











I think these cars are bothers in a strong way. I know one was a hand-built race car coming from the RSK and 718 developments, and the other was a VW / Karmann - built production car, they are so similar in concept, layout, details...

The overall mid-engine proportion and gap from the door to the rear wheel, the sail panel / buttress from the vertical rear window to the rear fender, the tall windshield, the front fender ridge with a light lens on the leading edge, and the hood lower, the flat rear fascia - there are direct connections between these cars.

I read that the 904 was intended to have the flat 6, but it wasn't ready on time so they went with the Carrera 4-cam. The 914 was intended to have the flat 6, but they made a cheaper flat 4 version to sell as a VW because of an inside family handshake deal.

BTW, they made a couple of flat 8 904s - I saw a video of that, what a noise. Not sure what had to give to make that fit...

[LateFan]

From certain angles, I think they have cool proportions. Generally I don't like the narrow body with skinny wheels, but this first shot shows the real form of this car. It was not flat, it was not straight, it was not square - (EDIT - you need to see this on a bigger screen, not a phone)

It was supposed to be very modern and forward-looking in contrast to the 911, which has it's origins in the 50s. It is completely related, design-wise, to the 904 / 908 / 917, which was designed about the same time.



A bit more wheel and tire and it changes everything..


Then the GT was very low, very wide, very fast, great handling...

[LateFan]

Moar 904 infos -

105 904/4's built by the factory. Seven 904/6's. "The chassis 904-001, designer F.A. Porsche's personal 6-cylinder prototype belonged to him until his death in 2012"

Two 904/8's built, five 904/8 Spyders.

The flat eight was tuned from about 240 to 260hp. It weighed 1440 lbs - yow.
Derived from the 804 F1 engine, says the Wiki. Also: "The Type 771s, however, suffered a "disturbing habit" of making their flywheels explode."

"Following the 550 and the 718, the third Porsche model created for racing was the 904. The homologation rules stipulated a minimum of 100 units and Porsche thought there weren’t that many potential racing customers, so the solution was a street legal car."

https://www.stuttcars.com/porsche-models/904/carrera-gts/

"Porsche designed the GTS variant to compete in the FIA-GT class at various international racing events. The street-legal version debuted in 1964 in order to comply with group 3 appendix J homologation regulations requiring a certain number of road-going variants be sold by the factory. Porsche produced one-hundred six 904s at four or five a day with a list price of US$7245. Orders far exceeded the one hundred car requirement to satisfy homologation rules and more cars could have been sold. The 904 marked the beginning of a series of sportscars that culminated in the dominant 917." - Wiki

"...at Reims in 1964, a customer car fresh from Stuttgart, driven to the track, went on to win without the need for any spares at all."





Interesting how similar that steel bulkhead around the engine is to the carbon fiber structure in the Carrera GT.




"The use of plastic was a first for Porsche, hence in the construction they sought advice from aviation experts. Two bodyshells per day were laminated by hand at the Heinkel Flugzeug Bau GmbH in Speyer, Germany."

[LateFan]

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904/8


Look at how similar the dash is to the 914...I never knew that.


With Carrera flat 4 engine...


904/6...

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Carrera GT
Wheelbase 107"
Length 182"
Weight 3150 lbs