I guess the remote booster will have to be it, then. Can anyone comment on brake feel? I have a fairly stiff pedal right now, and I kinda prefer it that way.
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Couple of comments, as I've done the swap myself couple of years ago and at the moment I'm in middle of E30 V8 automat - project.. (in case interested, here's a overview-video of my swap; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS2rkSIIz2s)
Originally posted by Mr. Burns View PostYes, it's been done to nauseum over in the U.K...
www.e30.de / "340i" gives you full overview of the swap with couple of full write-ups of the project. Worth checking out, there're also the pinouts of most common donors & E30 models..
3. Cooling- E36M3 or Z3M radiator drops in, Z3M is the preference, since it's 3 row.
Other options;
-E34 stock radiator, requires notches to frame rails, no big deal.
-Custom radiator, best option to avoid the oil-filter housing problem by locating the upper water hose 1/3 off the end of the radiator.
Brake Booster relocate
The most challenging part one could argue is the brake booster, I find the easiest way is to just use a brake booster from a e32/e34, and to mount it behind the left headlight (via welding) and extend the push rod.
Originally posted by Mr Two View PostThe 280mm clutch + flywheel setup they offer shouldn't be needed with an NA M6X + e30 weight.
No sense in using the "super-rare" and oversized 280mm clutch, makes your replacement part searching very hard.
Best way is to source a flywheel with 240mm clutch as there're many, many aftermarket clutches of that size.
Originally posted by Mr Two View PostI didn't include new timing chains as I'm fairly certain the old ones should be fine in whatever I end up getting. Timing chain guides and tensioners add up fast.
... but on the other hand even a half-tooth difference in lenght of the timing-chain can easily make up to 20hp difference in output power as the timing is off.
The timing chains flex with time, especially the one-row chains on M62, and they are a must-replacement.
No idea to start saving with timing chain and tensioners, renew them when you're there!
Originally posted by george graves View PostCan you lighten the stock flywheel?
Originally posted by BruceBe View PostH31 Hydro-boost setup (yet to see that successfully installed).
Originally posted by Mr Two View PostI guess the remote booster will have to be it, then. Can anyone comment on brake feel? I have a fairly stiff pedal right now, and I kinda prefer it that way.
Of course the choosen brake calipers affect on this also.
.. and let the talk go on.- E34 M5 (x 2) -
- E30 V8 Cabrio "Kylpyamme" -
- Alpina D10 Touring #33/94 -
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- Toyota Hiace 4wd -
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Anyone ever checked out this swap tutorial:
As a supplementary to the translation, below you will find various topics covered by RTSAUTO: https://www.rtsauto.com/m60-swap-eliminating-ews-for-404-ecudme/ - Eliminating EWS https://www.rtsauto.com/e30-boosterless-brake-bracket-booster-delete-manual-brakes-for-swap-cars/ - Boosterless Brakes (manual brakes) https://www.rtsauto.com/manualbrake/ - Manual brake calculations https://www.rtsauto.com/wiring-harness-adapter-guide-for-e30-m60-and-obd-1-m62-swap-pinout-and-a-cheap-way-of-getting-x20-and-c101-connectors/ - Wiring harness adapter https://www.rtsauto.com/e30-m60-m62-v8-engine-mounts/ - Engine mounts https://www.rtsauto.com/radiator-and-cooling-for-m60-m62-v8-e30-swap/ - Radiator and Cooling https://www.rtsauto.com/mounting-an-m60-m62-without-subframe-spacers-and-without-drivetrain-angle/ - Mounting an M60 / M62 V8 Into an e30
It looks pretty detailed, especially on the wiring.
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Originally posted by The Dark Side of Will View PostAnyone ever checked out this swap tutorial:
As a supplementary to the translation, below you will find various topics covered by RTSAUTO: https://www.rtsauto.com/m60-swap-eliminating-ews-for-404-ecudme/ - Eliminating EWS https://www.rtsauto.com/e30-boosterless-brake-bracket-booster-delete-manual-brakes-for-swap-cars/ - Boosterless Brakes (manual brakes) https://www.rtsauto.com/manualbrake/ - Manual brake calculations https://www.rtsauto.com/wiring-harness-adapter-guide-for-e30-m60-and-obd-1-m62-swap-pinout-and-a-cheap-way-of-getting-x20-and-c101-connectors/ - Wiring harness adapter https://www.rtsauto.com/e30-m60-m62-v8-engine-mounts/ - Engine mounts https://www.rtsauto.com/radiator-and-cooling-for-m60-m62-v8-e30-swap/ - Radiator and Cooling https://www.rtsauto.com/mounting-an-m60-m62-without-subframe-spacers-and-without-drivetrain-angle/ - Mounting an M60 / M62 V8 Into an e30
It looks pretty detailed, especially on the wiring.
That's direct translation from the www.e30.de write-up which I mentioned earlier..- E34 M5 (x 2) -
- E30 V8 Cabrio "Kylpyamme" -
- Alpina D10 Touring #33/94 -
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- E46 318i Touring -
- Toyota Hiace 4wd -
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What is the goal of this thread?
I thought he OP wanted a comprehensive Q&A on the swap, but it seems like this thread has started to meander into the realm of discussion/re-hash and opinion.
Where are we going with this? I ask, because I was about to reply to a bunch of opinion, but didn't want to further decrease the signal-to-noise ratio.
-Bruce
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Bruce - I think the more FACTUAL data the better :)Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205
OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827
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Originally posted by BruceBe View PostI thought he OP wanted a comprehensive Q&A on the swap, but it seems like this thread has started to meander into the realm of discussion/re-hash and opinion.
Where are we going with this? I ask, because I was about to reply to a bunch of opinion, but didn't want to further decrease the signal-to-noise ratio.
-Bruce
So please, feel free to bring out your comments also ;)- E34 M5 (x 2) -
- E30 V8 Cabrio "Kylpyamme" -
- Alpina D10 Touring #33/94 -
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- Toyota Hiace 4wd -
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6speed is over-priced / big / and expensive to repair..... i can see wanting one if you are building a cruiser..(why would you even do that with e30 though is beyond me lol)... you can just use 5 and a taller diff.Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205
OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827
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Originally posted by Jean View Post6speed is over-priced / big / and expensive to repair..... i can see wanting one if you are building a cruiser..(why would you even do that with e30 though is beyond me lol)... you can just use 5 and a taller diff.1989 325is / 2.7, 274 cam, e30 M3 5-lug
1989 LN106 Hilux / 3.0TD SFA
1974 2002tii / stock
2002 IS300 / 5spd LSD
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Well, they are easily available :) Just not cheap.Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205
OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827
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If you match the ends for the tranny/diff , then any good driveshaft shop should be able to do this given you take the needed dimensions.Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205
OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827
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