review of the Mason Engineering Rear Brace system

[Liam]

Hmmm okay.

"Rear Shock Tower Braces:

I was a naysayer on rear shock braces until late 1997, my thinking was that the shocks would not transmit the kind of forces that the brace seemed to be designed to mitigate

I had to concede..." http://www.evolutionzen.com/chassis-compliance.html

As to front braces you can also see Gustave Stroes.

http://www.e30m3project.com/e30m3performance/myths/Strutbar_Theory/strut_bar_theory.htm

I've been told some of his math was off but the theory is pretty much right on (even if not "complete" it's what we knew at the time he wrote it).







Hope this doesn't get me in trouble.

[Republic]

may i kindly request you do such a write up for every product. This is exactly what i need. Im not joking.

+ 1

[ZM Blue Devil]

Ok ask yourself these.

Do you track the car?
if yes
Is it just auto-x?
if no
Are you trying to compete in a track event?
if yes
Are you building a race car?
if no
you don't need this brace.
if yes
Be aware that this brace will add nothing if you already have a full cage

Those don't apply to you?
Ask yourself these.
Are you building a nice car?
if yes
Are you an attention whore?
if yes or no
Do you love eye candy?
If yes.
You want this brace.

May I kindly request you do such a write up for every product. This is exactly what I need. Im not joking.

[Jparkr]

Are you for real? I'm interested in a product that I will have to shell out big bucks for and this is the kind of goofy answers I get from who I am assuming is one of the makers?

Ok ask yourself these.

Do you track the car?
if yes
Is it just auto-x?
if no
Are you trying to compete in a track event?
if yes
Are you building a race car?
if no
you don't need this brace.
if yes
Be aware that this brace will add nothing if you already have a full cage

Those don't apply to you?
Ask yourself these.
Are you building a nice car?
if yes
Are you an attention whore?
if yes or no
Do you love eye candy?
If yes.
You want this brace.

[rThor432]

I think Liam is John Mason's second cousin.

John Mason's second cousin is Daniel Colegrove.

[Dillinger]

I"m making arrangements at the local spastic out patient clinic
to have them perform installs on a test basis
I think they can do it just fine although I have seen self proclaimed SIMI VALLEY BMW master mechanics that were unable to operate an umbrella without permanent damage

Are you for real? I'm interested in a product that I will have to shell out big bucks for and this is the kind of goofy answers I get from who I am assuming is one of the makers?

[jjmtools]

Install

I"m making arrangements at the local spastic out patient clinic
to have them perform installs on a test basis
I think they can do it just fine although I have seen self proclaimed SIMI VALLEY BMW master mechanics that were unable to operate an umbrella without permanent damage

[Farbin Kaiber]

how do you know them Liam?

I think Liam is John Mason's second cousin.

[Eric]

Neither John Mason (Mason Engineering) nor Daniel Colegrove (Evolution Zen) are really people people and are best left out in the shop away from the general public.

how do you know them Liam?

[Farbin Kaiber]

I want to go meet both of these guys in person. I bet I could make 'em people persons.

[Liam]

no, mason has been making them all along, back when they were SBI bars for $125, then IE bars, then EBAY bars, then Zen bars. Zen added the trunk floor part and the lower x brace and CA brace. Mason makes all of them though

Correct

To reiterate and clarify:

John Mason is a fabricator, makes all kinds of stuff for many of your favorite tuners etc and is one of the absolute very best at what he does.

Zen or Evolution Zen, AKA Entwicklung Zen, AKA BMW Zen Performance, AKA Zen Racing is a BMW Chassis Builder and R&D Company that designs and tests stuff with Mason among others.

Neither John Mason (Mason Engineering) nor Daniel Colegrove (Evolution Zen) are really people people and are best left out in the shop away from the general public.

As to the install I'm sure that someone will eventually chime in somewhere.

[Eric]

So it's mason now, not Zen?

no, mason has been making them all along, back when they were SBI bars for $125, then IE bars, then EBAY bars, then Zen bars. Zen added the trunk floor part and the lower x brace and CA brace. Mason makes all of them though

[evil_twin]

So it's mason now, not Zen?

[Dillinger]

Get out of here Danny. We left your stupid advertisement banner, you don't need to make new names and "bump" your review thread.

You are the 2nd person to tell me that.

[Jparkr]

Weird I got the same kind of email answer from DCColegrove at evolutionzen.com Any regular people install one yet?

Get out of here Danny. We left your stupid advertisement banner, you don't need to make new names and "bump" your review thread.