The New Subwoofer box FS thread

[Flyin90iS]

Ok I'm in for a 10" ported box but after taking some measurements I now have a few questions. I have adjustable shocks so I need to have access to the tops inside the trunk. So will I be able to access them with the 10" box and would it be possible to use a finish panel? My second question is if I don't have a ski pass and I only want to remove the metal panel and not trim any foam will the 10" be enough? I'm not a serious audiophile, but I do want to end up with a well balance system with good sound quality. I also have the sport interior which I believe you said limited the sound quality a bit.

[StereoInstaller1]

Hey guys, I wanna say thanks for all the support. R3V just fucking rocks!

You might imagine I have been getting quite a few PMs. Some of these I would prefer to answer publicly, so others can use the same info. Matt, hope you don't mind.

would you rather recommend the 10 or 12 inch box? I listen to all kinds of music rap, rock, everything. I just want to have a good mix of spl and sq.

Thanks for your time,
Matt

A quick comparison (wish I knew how to make those bitchin' little charts, but I are teh suck at computerz) of the ported 10, the V1 and the V2 ported 12" boxes:

Size: The 10" box is 2" "shallower" than the 12 box. If you measure from the trunk braces (vertical ribs in the trunk on either side of the ski boot hole) towards the rear of the car, the 12" boxes are 12" deep on the floor, and 6" deep on the top.


All 3 boxes are 15" tall, and literally rubs on the bottom of the speaker "bump" in the rear deck. You MUST remove the "trunk tar" sound deadning to make these boxes fit...yes, the fit is that precise.

Now the real differences: Car modifications. The beauty of the 10" box is that there is NO CUTTING at all...just remove the blank plate for the ski boot, remove the trunk tar, and you are done. In the V1 box, there will be a bit of cutting under the rear speakers, the V2 box requires WAY more precise cutting and in a visible spot, so it has to be basically perfect.

Here is the biggie: The sound. No doubt about it, the 12 is bigger. Harder, deeper, slower, louder, undeniably more bass. If you spend more than 50% of your time listening to hip hop, do the 12, unless it is an unmolested m3, or you just cannot bear to cut your car.

The 10 is "crisper" and is still a ton of fun, plenty of "boom"...but I listen to blues, jazz, old 70's Funk, hip hop, Reggae (Dancehall, too) 70's and 80's rock, plus some more modern rock (O.A.R., Sonia Dada) and if you know this music, you will see there is no fast "trance" or "house" bass anywhere in there...thus I need the extra bottom end of the 12.

If you listen to "fast" bass like in trance, some D-n-B, metal, screamo, BPM stuff....get the 10. Buy a better quality amp, use a cap, and DEFINITELY use an amp on the mids and highs.

I hope this answers some of your questions, guys. I just wish I had more time to get these done!

Luke

[cerdman]

Luke I am up for a ported (into the rear deck) e30 box for a ten. I will also need a suggestion for a sub. If I have any money left, I would like an e36 coupe box. You can PM me the good news (price etc).

[rhett325i]

I don't think good. durka durka

[StereoInstaller1]

What I meant by ETA was : estimated time of arrival?

is you a bit slow, boy? That was fucking hilarious, dammit!

[rhett325i]

Yes, they fit ETAs the same as an i or is.

What I meant by ETA was : estimated time of arrival?

[StereoInstaller1]

Yes, they fit ETAs the same as an i or is.

[rhett325i]

that 10" box is sounding better and better, ETA?

[Need4Speed]

Don't sugarcoat it, Luke!

I have about 30 questions, but I'm just gonna wait and see what materializes. About all I'm sure of is I want a box for a 10" sub, and I have a sedan that I take to the track once in a while.

Well, I guess that just goes to show you, You really can't have it all.

[Brian D]

Guys, let me make one thing clear right now: The Zen box will sound like shit compared to what is normally expected from these boxes.

Don't sugarcoat it, Luke!

I have about 30 questions, but I'm just gonna wait and see what materializes. About all I'm sure of is I want a box for a 10" sub, and I have a sedan that I take to the track once in a while.

[StereoInstaller1]

yo luke, i sent you a pm a few weeks ago. im gonna assume you didnt get it.

I answered you back, too....you didn't get it?


Guys, let me make one thing clear right now: The Zen box will sound like shit compared to what is normally expected from these boxes.

The woofer will be expensive, too.

Youse guys who want to have some bass in a lightweight setup that fits behind a frame brace will just have to content yourself with the whole "performance first" thing going out the window...on the other hand, you will have the best sounding stereo in the track...

Luke

[NC325iC]

yo luke, i sent you a pm a few weeks ago. im gonna assume you didnt get it.

[Brian D]

meh, reconsidering. I think I'll keep my options open and wait to hear about the Zen box.

[Erick]

Sounds interesting! :)

[StereoInstaller1]

Dave: I spoke with an engineer at Image Dynamics yesterday for about an hour. We worked out a box design that will work for5 your woofer, using 1.9 cubic feet.

this means of you measure from the rear seat back, 12" will be the final depth of your box...no issues at all getting the spare out, no worries.

Zen box guys: I have a car (drivenovertheedge, but spelled more gooder), local to the woodshop, that already has the brace mounted. I am gonna spend some quality time in the trunk to see what sort of stuff has to be done to make this work.

More news next week on that one.

E46, E34, E36, etc...2 more weeks until any news...but the E28 guys are first.

Anyone need a baur box? Sealed 10, tiny, gonna do 1 for sure, seems a waste to do only 1.

The big winner is the ported 10 box. By using 2 elbows, I can do 2) 3" ports or 2) 2" ports and the woofer, all firing through the ski hole...NO cutting of car needed!

Get this...go grab a tape measure, lay it on the floor of the car from the seat to the back. measure 10"...that is the box depth. Damn near like having nothing back there, it uses so little space. maybe JParker could post a shot of what we have going there, since he has the prototype in his trunk right now...


news soon, guys, soon.

Luke