chpahoy

[Massive Lee]

Hi Ken

When you sell something, you instantly become responsible of its condition. Being the "middleman" doesn't keep you from having to supply and engine in the "as advertized" condition. If it is sold as being in good condition, then it is expected to be like that. There's no excuse. Nada. You take the money, you take the responsibility. At the price asked, I would have expected it to be in good condition too. No excuse. After being notified of the problem, you should have refunded your client instantly or found a middle ground if such is the will of the purchaser. And then asked for a refund from the guy who sold the engine. Can't find the previous owner? Too bad. You are screewed. It certainly is not the current owner to pay for your mistakes.

There's NO other scenario. Maybe you have a long history of good service, but this time you got burned, and it might not be entirely your fault. It happens. Let's act straight.

[e30s52]

If "Ken" was as good as he was, I would (if I bought the s50) try to make amends by getting atleast 1/4 to 1/2 the money he spent to buy the damn motor. If you are a man of your word Ken, its always possible to do that much. Not sit behind a computer, type in a response saying that you bend over backwards, and just leave it at that.

He says he's not out to get his money, but at this point, only money would make things right since a lot of it was handed over. Do the right thing, and give him what he deserves, his money back.

The cost that you paid, and the cost that he pays has no relevancy. Keep that in mind.

-Jasper

jasper is right. even if you dont know the motor is bad you should still give them somthing. i sold a bad drive shaft and i paid to have it rebalcened. it wasnt because i had to it was because i wanted to stand by my word and sence it was messed up i would get it fix so he would have it for his car. thats just how i roll.

-alex

[jahnaboi]

If "Ken" was as good as he was, I would (if I bought the s50) try to make amends by getting atleast 1/4 to 1/2 the money he spent to buy the damn motor. If you are a man of your word Ken, its always possible to do that much. Not sit behind a computer, type in a response saying that you bend over backwards, and just leave it at that.

He says he's not out to get his money, but at this point, only money would make things right since a lot of it was handed over. Do the right thing, and give him what he deserves, his money back.

The cost that you paid, and the cost that he pays has no relevancy. Keep that in mind.

-Jasper

[JAX S50]

Ken

I bought a 3.91 E21 diff from ken some time ago, good price, installed into my E21 baur (now sold) no issues, quiet, I would buy from ken again nice guy too. Just my

[CntrlcoastE30's]

User name caught my eye.
Have had some experience with the seller.
Also interesting to read his reply and the reply of others.
Feedback is good!
Getting a feel for the site after being recommended by a few good members (Joe Funk and others) here. Thanks guys!

[e30s52]

i think he is just out to get payed and screw over any one for a buck

[george graves]

As stated in an earlier post, I had no knowledge of what this motor was all about. I bought it off of ebay and a friend of mine, who I happened to meet while selling him parts, offered to pick it up for me. He delivered it, it sat on my garage floor, and then things in my life changed. I liquidated all kinds of parts and cars to numerous satisfied customers............

Why is it that shady people can't seem to grasp the concept of a paragraph, or even structure???

Sucks that you are out your money, and this fool does not even say - "Hey, call me I want to make it right - if I even can", or, "WOW, I didn't know - lets talk about it"

Nope - he just does one long run on sentence....after avoiding calls like a little girl...

Just FYI, Joe funk sells awesome motors - shipping is a bitch, but worth it.

...hth

[golde30]

As stated in an earlier post, I had no knowledge of what this motor was all about. I bought it off of ebay and a friend of mine, who I happened to meet while selling him parts, offered to pick it up for me. He delivered it, it sat on my garage floor, and then things in my life changed. I liquidated all kinds of parts and cars to numerous satisfied customers. I even went to great lengths to deliver parts for a nominal fee. This buyer felt that I didn't represent the motor properly, brought it to my attention so I agreed to knock some money off of the price. Not because I had knowledge of a defect but because I wanted to deal in good faith. If you were not happy with the product, you could have backed out of the deal. I have owned BMW's since 1984, probably longer than some have been alive. I have dealt with the e21 crowd for numerous years with no complaints. I have bent over backwards to appease people, giving them parts for cheap or free so that they may complete their projects. If you don't want to deal with me fine, that's entirely within your right. But to come out and say that I am shady and underhanded is just plain ignorance on your part.

Ken, this thread was not about the parts that were/were not with the motor upon delivery, we settled that on the spot. this is more about the condition of the motor itself, and your lack of response when i tried to contact you regarding the problem. if i had gotten any kind of reply from you, even "hey i didnt know what kinda condition it was in, sorry." or anything really i wouldnt have felt the need to post this thread. however, you told me the motor was pulled from a running car, and therefor i assumed it was a good motor. i suppose the assumption on my part was a mistake, and im glad i didnt just throw the motor in my car on good faith.

HOWEVER, i got no response, and that only leads me to beleive you did not care and or knew about the condition, and therefore decided to aviod the topic. im not out to get my money back, i'm just posting my experience as a buyer. as i said in the first post, my origional impression of you was very good, and even after i discovered the blown head gasket i still gave you the benefit of the doubt, and waited quite long until i made judgement and posted this thread.

[e30s52]

Theres always a good story behind that. Either the death of a loved animal, car accidents or botched sex change operations. Give him a break.

lol thinking the same thing

[euro3]

Now that you know understand that the motor was bad, what do you intend to do? Did you tell the buyer up front that "I had no knowledge of what this motor was all about." (your words). The fact that you have numerous satified customers means nothing to someone who is out over $2500.

chpahoy: I have bent over backwards to appease people, giving them parts for cheap or free so that they may complete their projects.

That doesn't seem to be the case here.


chpahoy: But to come out and say that I am shady and underhanded is just plain ignorance on your part.

Then answer the phone.


Hopefully you contact the buyer and attempt to make amends.

[mudflaps]

why didnt you answer the phone and if your such a good seller

Theres always a good story behind that. Either the death of a loved animal, car accidents or botched sex change operations. Give him a break.

[e30s52]

owning a car since 1984 doesnt mean anything. why didnt you answer the phone and if your such a good seller why wont Mr. 325 deal with you?

[chpahoy]

As stated in an earlier post, I had no knowledge of what this motor was all about. I bought it off of ebay and a friend of mine, who I happened to meet while selling him parts, offered to pick it up for me. He delivered it, it sat on my garage floor, and then things in my life changed. I liquidated all kinds of parts and cars to numerous satisfied customers. I even went to great lengths to deliver parts for a nominal fee. This buyer felt that I didn't represent the motor properly, brought it to my attention so I agreed to knock some money off of the price. Not because I had knowledge of a defect but because I wanted to deal in good faith. If you were not happy with the product, you could have backed out of the deal. I have owned BMW's since 1984, probably longer than some have been alive. I have dealt with the e21 crowd for numerous years with no complaints. I have bent over backwards to appease people, giving them parts for cheap or free so that they may complete their projects. If you don't want to deal with me fine, that's entirely within your right. But to come out and say that I am shady and underhanded is just plain ignorance on your part.

[MR 325]

In September/October of 2006 I drove 3 hours to Ken's house to check out his Euro 323i he had for sale. This car looked awesome in pictures and was represented as being in top notch condition by the seller. For the price he was asking, it should have been!

My time was wasted, this car was nothing near what it was said to be. There was obvious damage to the radiator support from a previous front end accident, rust on the frame rails, and bondo everywhere! Who knows what other rust had been covered up on the car! The paint was also a horrible aftermarket repaint. All in all a big waste of my time. I know this was a while ago now but I felt the need to share.

I don't plan to ever deal with Ken again.

[bmw02m20]

feedback

Okay here's my 2 cents worth. I have to disagree with your view of Ken. I have over the past three years purchased many items, including my 1984 m tech 1 car, from Ken and had the exact opposite experience. As a matter of fact I picked up and delivered the motor in question to Ken. He purchased the s50 from a seller on ebay out of the Tuscon area. The seller worked at a reputible shop and seemed to be on the up and up to me. As I recall the s50 was from an automatic car that was wrecked. So Ken never heard the motor run or knew it's exact condition. I think we can all agree that when you buy a motor that is used and that you cannot hear run, you run the risk of it's actual condition. Ken only represented what he was told from the previous owner.