N52 Swap Discussion

[jeenyus]

I've considered it. Just to get it moving... But really I just need time to build a motor.

I definitely remember the talk of that, but if I remember there is still a big desire to be AWD, which I think would be perfect for the track. Time attack anyway. Dang. This is now something to consider over going an m20 turbo build for the ix...I had no idea till I saw someone try to swap an n54 into a rwd and the biggest issue was the rear sump oil pan.

[nando]

I've considered it. Just to get it moving... But really I just need time to build a motor.

[jeenyus]

Yeah, I've test fitted it (N52 pan is the same). It fits really well.

So the ix (ironically) is perfect for an N5X swap IF you're willing to become RWD? That's kind of crazy.

[nando]

Yeah, I've test fitted it (N52 pan is the same). It fits really well.

[jeenyus]

I didn't know where else to pose this questions, so i'll post it here.

I noticed recently that the N54 is a rear oil sump. Would this mean that you could basically drop that into an IX? If you wanted to bastardize the IX and make it RWD with an N54 (because the front subframe is oriented further toward the front)? would that be possible you think (in theory?)

[Motheye99]

Im 99% sure you don’t have a hobby laser sintering machine :) They are starting to make more affordable printers so its possible to have one at home. Definitely not the run of the mill 3D printer!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sele...aser_sintering

Its only a matter of time before we get a DIY SLS solution. Filament based printers have plateaued.

Defiantly a ways to go before i can make my own intake!
https://reprap.org/wiki/OpenSLS

[Motheye99]

I'm interested in the material to. The complicated part is adding metal inserts for the mounting bolts to stop relaxation.

I've used these before. They would even somewhat replicate the OE plastic intake manifold. Of course i'd have to heat them up a bit more for the filament I plan to use.

[nando]

I was going to say - that looks cool, but sounds expensive.

[wazzu70]

That would certainly work. I don't think I print that material. I really need to buy a s54 TB and get to work on this.

Im 99% sure you don’t have a hobby laser sintering machine :) They are starting to make more affordable printers so its possible to have one at home. Definitely not the run of the mill 3D printer!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sele...aser_sintering

[Northern]

What was the material? I built my own printers and while they're not close to commercial printers. THey've got the capabilities for 400+c° prints.

Our team has no documentation to go with it. There was a team reboot in 2015, and 99% of what came before that is gone.

Here is their materials page: https://realizeinc.com/materials/

I think they mostly did SLA in that era, but I don't know what resin. I think there has been some evolution in 3d printing since this was made too

[Motheye99]

Material: http://www.windform.com/ Example: https://www.crptechnology.com/intake...-xt-vm-motori/

That would certainly work. I don't think I print that material. I really need to buy a s54 TB and get to work on this.

[wazzu70]

Material: http://www.windform.com/


Example: https://www.crptechnology.com/intake...-xt-vm-motori/

[nando]

Why an adapter? It bolts up, why not port out the N52 head to match the throttles? The ports and, I @$$ume, the valves are smaller than S54's, but we don't yet know if the N52 head can be improved to perform closer to an S54 head. I suspect that someone looking to swap on S54 throttles could afford a head/throttle package.

because a spacer (about 1" thick) is needed anyway in order for it to clear the OFH.

[digger]

We had a full (ie. from behind single throttle body to port) single-piece 3d printed intake for a CBR600RR in an old iteration of our FSAE car, probably ~2012ish. I think it survived 3-4 engines (~1 engine per year... lol) and seems to be in good shape after being thrown around the past 4 shops we've had. Seems at least as robust as an e36 intake. It was a sponsored part made by Realize Inc. I think they're super common now in FSAE. Sure it's not the same as 200k+ on a production engine, but I think there's a reasonable possibility it would last.

I 100% agree that it's not economical though.

I'm interested in the material to. The complicated part is adding metal inserts for the mounting bolts to stop relaxation.

[Motheye99]

We had a full (ie. from behind single throttle body to port) single-piece 3d printed intake for a CBR600RR in an old iteration of our FSAE car, probably ~2012ish. I think it survived 3-4 engines (~1 engine per year... lol) and seems to be in good shape after being thrown around the past 4 shops we've had. Seems at least as robust as an e36 intake. It was a sponsored part made by Realize Inc. I think they're super common now in FSAE. Sure it's not the same as 200k+ on a production engine, but I think there's a reasonable possibility it would last. I 100% agree that it's not economical though.

What was the material? I built my own printers and while they're not close to commercial printers. THey've got the capabilities for 400+c° prints.