Are you interested in doing a 24v swap? Read this!

[JGood]

i've done alot of reading about my M50 e30 .... is one thing i should be worried about be.. the FUEL PUMP? which should i use? are they the same? e30 and e36/ im gonna pull the fuel pump anyways from my parts car but should i swap the e36 one for the e30 or will the e30 pump be fine for my car?

Not only has that question been answered over and over again in this forum, but it's been asked in THIS THREAD.



BY YOU



AND ANSWERED.




Jesus. Between this and the guy PM'ing me asking why his m50 with an e36 oil pan won't clear the subframe, I have no hope for the future of e30 enthusiasts.

[e30s52]

i've done alot of reading about my m50 e30 .... Is one thing i should be worried about be.. The fuel pump? Which should i use? Are they the same? E30 and e36/ im gonna pull the fuel pump anyways from my parts car but should i swap the e36 one for the e30 or will the e30 pump be fine for my car?

YOU DO NOT NEED TO SWITCH PUMPS!!!!!!

I hope people will read this.

[z31maniac]

Yeah, this thread is doomed. I thought it would be possible to keep it to 1 page without random, repetitive questions that will turn it into a 50 page clusterfuck. oh well.

Ask a mod to come in here and clean it up.

[dinanm3atl]

AKG offers 2 versions. E28 mounts and their Group N mounts. E28 mounts are still urethane and can survive track use?

[justin_l_]

Just keep editing the first post with the information as needed, that way there is no searching needed, just good quailty in the first post.

[JGood]

Yeah, this thread is doomed. I thought it would be possible to keep it to 1 page without random, repetitive questions that will turn it into a 50 page clusterfuck. oh well.

[justin_l_]

No. Stock is fine. It has been mentioned in the other sticky a couple times.

[TheBANKe30]

should the fuel pump be replaced for my m50 e30 swap???

BIG BIG question i havn't seen asked or answered

[JGood]

I also keep reading about some guys using shims, others don't. What determines the need for shims? Is it the mount? The brake booster? Something else? Which mounts would best suit a weekend warrior?

All kinds of things. My motor swap has been fine for 20k miles and 12 months, then all of a sudden my headers started rattling against my subframe. So I shimmed the motor another 1/8" or so on the passenger side to clear that (thinking the mount had just settled and I needed some addiitional height). Well now the intake manifold vibrates hard against the booster in reverse. This motor BARELY fits, in several places it's within 1/4" or so of clearance. With a 20 year old chassis, things bend/flex/move, and you need to shim each one differently.

[bdi_fc]

I'm still trying to find out who admin's the wiki page so i can help clean it up.

If you know who does let me know so we can get it all sorted out.

-Cam

I run the site. Shoot me a message if you're interested in cleaning it up.

[justin_l_]

Shims depend on whether or not your intake manifold hits your booster. Usually only shimming 1/4 inch. Rubber tranny mounts will usually be fine with that much shim. I have used the black 735 mounts I believe for the last 2 swaps without any problems. Some people who track their cars have problems with them tearing. If that is the case you want to look at akg's mounts or solid mounts.

[E turd]

I read through the wikipedia page and have questions about exactly which mounts work best. In the reading I have done around here and other forums, it looks like you can use the following:

11-81-1-132-793 (green)


11-81-1-175-735 (black)


11-81-2-225-201 (m5)


AKG custom hybrid mounts


Some kind of poly mounts?


I also keep reading about some guys using shims, others don't. What determines the need for shims? Is it the mount? The brake booster? Something else? Which mounts would best suit a weekend warrior?


Also, it seems like the use of shims would change the tranny angle, and thus a pre-fabbed tranny crossmember bracket would also have to be shimmed? Is this correct?

[peerless]

just do add: You dont need to replace the 36 oil pump with the e34 oil pump if you're doing an m50 swap, the pumps are the same part, you just need the oil pickup tube. It makes life a whole lot easier and saves you money

are you EXCLUDING S50s? I had NEVER heard this....can we get confirmation on this?....

S50 is the same pump, you only need to swap the pickup. Order a new pickup gasket from the dealer and use locktite on the 2 pickup bolts.

Also as a side note, my oil pan had a built in windage tray, and the S50 has a bolt in windage tray. You cannot have both. Also you need to remove the S50 tray to remove/cut off the original oil pick up bracket.

Oh yes, damn one more hint. Carefully remove the locknut from the pump gear, being careful not to knock the gear loose. Clean the nut and clean the threads, add locktite to the nut and reinstall. Reverse threads.

C/ya

[dinanm3atl]

Thanks. Starting to read :)

[JGood]

OP, the image in the first post is broken.

My server has been down since about 2pm today. No ETTR yet, but previous outages have been less then 12 hours, so I'd expect it to be up by tomorrow.