Torque setting for the intake mani?

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  • Vince30
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    I, Vince30, do not own a torque wrench. But I barrow one for the following.

    Originally posted by MR 325
    Head bolts, main bolts, rod bolts.

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  • TimKninja
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    When working on My car, "Gut Und Tight" is my torque setting. Unless its something like a head/ main engine components. Or a flywheel.

    When Im working at the tire shop ,I do torque down lugs with a Torque Stick, and a wrench. Its more of a safety issue. Id never be able to live with myself if someone was killed when a wheel fell off their car.

    I do double check my own lugs as well, my friend claimed to have torqued down one of my wheels, right after i got my car back on the road after my 5 speed swap. I drove the car around for like 200 miles that day , I got home , parked it. Came out the next day and their was two lugs missing , and the other two were finger tight.

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  • rThor432
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    ^^It's great work. In the last 3 weeks I did 5 cylinder heads and 4 sets of lifters. We see a lot of issues with 'N' engine heads. I've done a lot of N62 heads as well, the valve stem seals are giving out as early as 50k.

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  • dsobering47
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    Cam-trays, VANOS/camshaft bolts, any aluminum bolt...hell, the e90 has aluminum bolts that are TTY for the engine mount arms...wtf

    N52/N52k's suffer from a 'ticking' from the lifters due to a check valve that wasn't pressed into the cylinder head. First repair would be to replace all 12 exhaust lifters/rock arms. Second repair (if the customer returns) would be a new cylinder head. Keep in mind the affected cars are made before 11/2008, so the newer vehicles already have the updated parts.

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  • MR 325
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    Also, why do so many N52 engines need cylinder heads? :D

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  • MR 325
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    Originally posted by dsobering47
    I'll keep that in mind when you do a torque-to-yield aluminum bolt set. Yes, I understand the 'feel' of 20 nM or whatever....I'm simply stating (for someone looking into turning wrenches) that it DOES NOT HURT to torque it to the correct amount.
    If you're taling head internals such as cam trays etc then yes a torque spec is also important there. No question.

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  • dsobering47
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    Originally posted by rThor432
    I want to ask how you've managed to do a cylinder head a week, but the real question is what do you do with all of the brackets that bolt to the valve cover where the rear lower engine cover bolt goes? And you torque all of the N52 valve cover bolts to spec too? ...

    I've done many cylinder heads in a week before. The bracket for the engine cover on N52k's or the rear wiring harness bracket for the N52's? The engine cover bracket comes off quick enough and the rear wiring harness bracket is removed with a shallow T30 with flex-head... Yes I torque the aluminum bolts on the N52 to spec. The steel bolts on the N52k are a different matter.

    This wasnt meant to be an argument.:(

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  • Blaine0002
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    Originally posted by dsobering47
    I am only laughing now because my point was misunderstood. Obviously I have no idea what I'm doing with a wrench because I shouldnt torque anything and I should just accept it as fact. Of course, this is coming from a guy who has done 100+ N52/N52k cylinder heads in the past year or so...the fastest time being 3.5 hours from start to finish.

    I'll stick to knowing my shit is done right.
    i get it. bickering over something silly.

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  • rThor432
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    Originally posted by dsobering47
    Of course, this is coming from a guy who has done 100+ N52/N52k cylinder heads in the past year or so...the fastest time being 3.5 hours from start to finish.
    I want to ask how you've managed to do a cylinder head a week, but the real question is what do you do with all of the brackets that bolt to the valve cover where the rear lower engine cover bolt goes? And you torque all of the N52 valve cover bolts to spec too? I'm not getting in your case, just asking seriously. Quick guys don't keep their 1/4" torque wrench in their back pocket..

    The thing is, if you know the right way to do it, just get it done. This is a pretty worthless debate because one side isn't going to change the other side's opinion. I worked with Porsche motorsport cars for 8 months and torqued every fastener I touched in that period-- every one. Was my work then any different from my previous or current work? No.
    Last edited by rThor432; 11-23-2011, 03:42 AM.

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  • dsobering47
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    I am only laughing now because my point was misunderstood. Obviously I have no idea what I'm doing with a wrench because I shouldnt torque anything and I should just accept it as fact. Of course, this is coming from a guy who has done 100+ N52/N52k cylinder heads in the past year or so...the fastest time being 3.5 hours from start to finish.

    I'll stick to knowing my shit is done right.

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  • 10Toes
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    Originally posted by dsobering47
    I'll keep that in mind when you do a torque-to-yield aluminum bolt set. Yes, I understand the 'feel' of 20 nM or whatever....I'm simply stating (for someone looking into turning wrenches) that it DOES NOT HURT to torque it to the correct amount.

    Originally posted by MR 325
    You guys fucking crack me up with your torque specs.

    Let me tell you where torque specs are important... Head bolts, main bolts, rod bolts.

    No, I'm not an ignorant redneck.
    Because you probably don't have any extra time becuase you were busy torquing the battery hold down I will highlight this for you.

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  • dsobering47
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    Originally posted by MR 325
    As already stated, but I will say it AGAIN for you, if you know what you're doing you have a feel for how much to tighten something. I didn't need any fancy school or dealer job to teach me that. If this is something that you can't comprehend please keep living in your world and I will be here in mine getting shit done.

    I'll keep that in mind when you do a torque-to-yield aluminum bolt set. Yes, I understand the 'feel' of 20 nM or whatever....I'm simply stating (for someone looking into turning wrenches) that it DOES NOT HURT to torque it to the correct amount.

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  • RobertK
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    Us southern shadetree mechanics only have 4 measurements for torque. HT, PT, PDT, and VFT.

    (Occasionally we will blow the dust off the ole torque wrench to install cylinder heads, flywheels, and such.) ;)

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  • accident
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    Originally posted by MR 325
    As already stated, but I will say it AGAIN for you, if you know what you're doing you have a feel for how much to tighten something. I didn't need any fancy school or dealer job to teach me that. If this is something that you can't comprehend please keep living in your world and I will be here in mine getting shit done.
    This.

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  • MR 325
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    As already stated, but I will say it AGAIN for you, if you know what you're doing you have a feel for how much to tighten something. I didn't need any fancy school or dealer job to teach me that. If this is something that you can't comprehend please keep living in your world and I will be here in mine getting shit done.

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