M20 Turbo

[619E30]

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[MonkeyMadness]

A C.A.R.B. sticker for a mechtech turbo kit with the CARB PDF in the glovebox that basically says that anything in the kit can be "upgraded" as long as it serves the same function ;) That's for cops though.

wow really,, well other than buying the kit how would some get there hands on the c.a.r.b. sticker and carb pdf?;)

Nobody in this thread except lifeiskaos and blueapplesoda know what they are talking about. Fuck.
Its like watching a bunch of retards trying to eat spaghetti.

It's really sad/funny in a sick twisted way :-D

[619E30]

What do you guys think of this?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-T...ht_2217wt_1165

[619E30]

^^ What do you recommend danny?

[Danny]

Nobody in this thread except lifeiskaos and blueapplesoda know what they are talking about. Fuck.

Its like watching a bunch of retards trying to eat spaghetti.

[blueapplesoda]

^^ Pretty genius. What's the purpose of bringing your bro's car to smog?

well it's obviously not to smog his bros car for the sake of smogging

[blueapplesoda]

MLS+ARP studs is good for about 12psi imho. O-ring'd block with stock head gasket and arp studs, good for 15psi all day. Its what I'm running now, and been for the last year or so. The only way to go unless you are trying to run more than 25psi, than look into ppf's pyramid rings.

Forged pistons are also the way to go. I have broken piston lands on stock pistons so many times, albeit with a very knowledgeable tuner (one that knows the ecu he is tuning), you can get away with using stock pistons.

Derek
DedericMS

[619E30]

^^ Pretty genius. What's the purpose of bringing your bro's car to smog?

[lifeiskaos]

^^ sounds pretty accurate. Lifeiskaos, how do you pass emissions with a turbo, or is your m52b30 going in like a track car?

A C.A.R.B. sticker for a mechtech turbo kit with the CARB PDF in the glovebox that basically says that anything in the kit can be "upgraded" as long as it serves the same function ;) That's for cops though. I take my brother's car to smog instead of mine for $40 :D

[Chabs]

I'm no M20 expert but I'd recommend getting head studs and a head gasket for sure. And also think about some forged pistons

[619E30]

^^ sounds pretty accurate. Lifeiskaos, how do you pass emissions with a turbo, or is your m52b30 going in like a track car?

[lifeiskaos]

have fun fixing your bent valves and fubard vanos unit, and trying to tune the damn thing.

boost= non vanos

n/a= vanos

Do some research before you come start giving advice without knowing wtf you are talking about. Turbo'd vanos engines don't magically bend valves, and vanos units don't magically go bad.

If you can't figure out how to turn a switch on at a certain RPM/load, you should either not be boosting engines with standalone ECU's, or you should let good tuners like TRM tune the stock ecu for you.

Yes, nonvanos engines are more "beefy." Who the fuck cares? Since when are heavy rods better? The vanos engines are newer, better engineered engines.

[xwill112x]

I'm telling you otherwise. They're both decent for boost, but a nonvanos is pretty much a DOHC m20... you can really take advantage of the newer technology with vanos engines/ecu's.

have fun fixing your bent valves and fubard vanos unit, and trying to tune the damn thing.

boost= non vanos

n/a= vanos

[619E30]

^^ True. But both the m20 and m50 have to be rebuilt, so I think I'm going to go with the m20 for now :)

[lifeiskaos]

what? the non vanos is the turbo friendly motor.

orly? Why is that? Less stock compression? dual valve springs? WOWzerz! The vanos m50's have more low end torque, meaning faster spool, longer rods, meaning higher revving, a lighter weight valve train, meaning less HP loss, and more tuning options.

That's exactly what someone told me

I'm telling you otherwise. They're both decent for boost, but a nonvanos is pretty much a DOHC m20... you can really take advantage of the newer technology with vanos engines/ecu's.