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    That’s actually a pretty small volume and good for response no arguments
    The ebay manifold is probably 60x7.5x15 = 6.75L so quite large
    With a log type manifold on an i6 it’s hard to get the volume down without screwing distribution.
    300mm from the plenum to head should work fine, the eBay manifold looks uber short

    89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

    new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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      Digger

      eBay Manifold is (21" x 8.6" x 3")/2 = 271 in3 = 4.4L. That's spot on for a 1.5x of a 3L turbo

      Runners are ridiculous short though. 76 mm vs 200 - 300 mm for high end power or 300 - 400 mm for lower end.

      Stock intake plenum looks to be about 3L with 450mm runners. Can you confirm?

      I think a well designed 4.5L plenum with 300 mm runners would be great for a 3L turbo. That's a future project.
      "And then we broke the car. Again." Mark Donohue, "The Unfair Advantage"

      1987 E30 3L Turbo Stroker Das Beast
      2002 E39 M5

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        Woah the comment feature is neat

      Sure. I'll let you know when I start building it.
      "And then we broke the car. Again." Mark Donohue, "The Unfair Advantage"

      1987 E30 3L Turbo Stroker Das Beast
      2002 E39 M5

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        Removed the eBay manifold. We'll eventually reuse the flange for a CFD designed custom manifold. I'm thinking of doing a 3D printed carbon fiber plenum.



        View of the head intake ports.



        Manifold will be ready Monday. Working on the throttle body in the meantime. It's full of holes we don't use. They have to be plugged

        This one first. One of the bolts was stripped, had to be drilled and removed with an extractor. I chopped off the pipe and ground everything flat.



        Port closed airtight with an aluminum plate and Very High Bond adhesive backing tape.



        These two on the bottom and one on the other side will get tapped to 9/16-18 and fitted with lioctite coated hex hex set screws. Waiting on the tap tool and hardware.


        "And then we broke the car. Again." Mark Donohue, "The Unfair Advantage"

        1987 E30 3L Turbo Stroker Das Beast
        2002 E39 M5

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          I ended up needing three different tap sizes for the throttle body

          7/16-20 for these two




          9/16-18 for this one




          Then 1/2-20 for the hole I previously covered up. Decided to tap it as well. I'll replace the cover once its plugged.




          All the taps turned out great. Just waiting for the set screws. Decided to clean the thing up in the meantime
          "And then we broke the car. Again." Mark Donohue, "The Unfair Advantage"

          1987 E30 3L Turbo Stroker Das Beast
          2002 E39 M5

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            Manifold and valve cover back from powder coating. Total M20 porn

            Interesting how they do two color:

            Media blast
            Shoot the black
            Bake it
            Shoot the white
            Brush white powder off black highlights
            Bake it again

            Turned out great!





            "And then we broke the car. Again." Mark Donohue, "The Unfair Advantage"

            1987 E30 3L Turbo Stroker Das Beast
            2002 E39 M5

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              Hot damn

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                That looks amazing. Now I want to do that to mine. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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                  That is Friggin sweet. Nice choice.

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                    Finally back on track

                    Moving the fuel rail to the new manifold. Had to make new brackets.


                    Fits great on the stock manifold


                    Upgraded the manifold boost reference output


                    Ported all the intake runners. They had bumps near the end like the one on the left


                    Throttle body holes plugged with set screws and loctite 545 pneumatic sealant. That stuff is strong!


                    Block mating surface cleaned up, ready for gasket and head


                    Head gasket on. Using two studs only as guides.


                    Verified TDC for the head


                    Block at TDC


                    Head re-installed


                    Used anti-seize for all the head studs




                    We'll put the head stud nuts on and torque them down next time. Using the valve cover to keep dust out for now. Looks pretty good with the black oil cap.
                    Last edited by dvallis; 09-28-2019, 07:14 PM.
                    "And then we broke the car. Again." Mark Donohue, "The Unfair Advantage"

                    1987 E30 3L Turbo Stroker Das Beast
                    2002 E39 M5

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                      More progress

                      Head seated flush on the MLS head gasket. Pins aligned with block and head


                      Head torqued down. 22 ft-lbs for each nut per Bentley's pattern, repeat with 90 degrees x 2 for each


                      I remember this dance from the last time. At TDC the head gear teeth line up exactly with the belt teeth. There is NO stretch in that kevlar belt, so it's not going on this way.


                      Last time we cheated and put a couple of degrees advance on on the head to line up gear teeth with belt notches. Not horrible but not the best way. This time we used the Nuke gear adjustable feature to leave the head and block TDC, but slightly turn the head gear.


                      Note the gear TDC "dot" and head dash are still aligned.


                      Found the old throttle cable so we'll reuse this bracket and plastic bits.


                      Test fitting the manifold, throttle body and boost piping. I like the new look. No, the blue boost hose is not staying. :-)

                      "And then we broke the car. Again." Mark Donohue, "The Unfair Advantage"

                      1987 E30 3L Turbo Stroker Das Beast
                      2002 E39 M5

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                        you don't have one of the dodgy gears with wrong tooth profile? you can tell how well the belt fits in when its off the engine. i had to get a replacement sent out and i know of others also
                        89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

                        new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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                          Don't think so. Belt fits just fine in all the teeth where the belt wraps around it.
                          "And then we broke the car. Again." Mark Donohue, "The Unfair Advantage"

                          1987 E30 3L Turbo Stroker Das Beast
                          2002 E39 M5

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                            I just love this build. I have an IX and for the longest time I couldn't stop thinking about how to accomplish an engine swap. Then it occurred to me that a turbo M20 is a completely viable, awesome option. What figures are you hoping for?

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                              M20 is a great engine. Easy to work on, takes boost like a champ. Turbocharged it has an impressive horsepower to weight ratio. We're shooting for 400-500 HP. Here's some data from early in the build when we were considering engine swaps.

                              "And then we broke the car. Again." Mark Donohue, "The Unfair Advantage"

                              1987 E30 3L Turbo Stroker Das Beast
                              2002 E39 M5

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