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  • kylebes1
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    Originally posted by Joe318is View Post
    try to find an early e36 318i[s] m42, 93 or before. the one i found had 50k on it. car runs perfect now
    The late m42 has the improved valve train that I was after... but low milage is good either way.

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  • kylebes1
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    Originally posted by EN318isPDX View Post
    I disagree. If all you care about is MPG than get a geo
    You are confused.

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  • EN318isPDX
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    Originally posted by kylebes1 View Post
    A low mileage m44 is easy to come by and far cheaper than rebuilding a worn out m42... that and the m44 has a better head design
    I disagree. If all you care about is MPG than get a geo

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  • Joe318is
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    try to find an early e36 318i[s] m42, 93 or before. the one i found had 50k on it. car runs perfect now
    Last edited by Hick; 08-01-2008, 12:38 PM.

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  • kylebes1
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    Originally posted by kenika65 View Post
    Then please rebuild your M42 and call it a day.
    A low mileage m44 is easy to come by and far cheaper than rebuilding a worn out m42... that and the m44 has a better head design

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  • kenika65
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    Then please rebuild your M42 and call it a day.

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  • kylebes1
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    I just made a post on m42club about this swap... I would like to see if there is any more knowledge here.

    my 318is is a daily driver. Engine rarely goes past 4k, but with 200k it is tired and NOISEY!!! So I started looking into the m44 conversion.

    The easiest way to do this conversion is a simple short block swap. Retain the e30 intake, harness, sensors, oil pan and accessories. The displacement change is an increase of .1L. I believe this would be a negligible change, though some feel a complete remap is necessary.

    The only real question that came to mind for me was the difference in the cam sensor design. The e30 m42 and e36 m44 use different sensors. What I can tell, however, is that if this sensor is not functioning the ignition goes into wasted spark, where the ignitions are paired. This simply means you get one piston firing when it should and a paired piston firing when it's on the exhaust stroke- meaning it is wasted and affects nothing. Correct me if I am wrong.

    Now the second thing that came to mind regarding this cam sensor was that it must also work with the fuel injection. Well come to find out the fuel injection is already firing in pairs. So the injection stays the same, and the ignition goes into wasted spark mode. I venture to say it is safe to kill the cam sensor...??...

    Will someone please correct me if I am wrong? I am tired of hearing the terrible volvo b230f under my hood! I want a lower milage, smooth BMW engine again!

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  • ethree
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    What about running the m44 with the ecu, just swapping the pan and manifolds?
    How much is different if swapping into an m20 car?

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  • E30nate
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    if you are looking for an m44, be carefull if you are looking at a 95 yr model as they switched from the m42 halfway through.

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  • Joe318is
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    Oh. it was not an M44, when i picked it up i noticed a '93' stamped on the back of the head, so it was an M42.

    Swap the pan, intake, and accesories. Put it in one weekend and its run perfect ever since.

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  • dark_islight
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    M44 Swap

    Are there any updates on the m44 swap? I have the same dilemma whether to rebuild my tired M42 (360,000km no oil pressure and making loud clatter from the timing chain cover) or the M44 which I can get easily.
    Last edited by dark_islight; 06-11-2008, 04:20 PM.

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  • Joe318is
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    Good deal! This fuckers going in pretty soon!

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  • 2002maniac
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    Originally posted by Joe318is View Post
    Also, its from a 93 insted of 95. Does that change anything?
    yes, it would be an M42 instead of an M44. you can use both of your E30M42 coolant temp sensors in the E36 head no problem.

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  • Joe318is
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    Good idea. I was planning on having the M42 blueprinted and rebuilding it to go back into the car at some point. So the M44 would only be in there for a year or so.

    I have the motor now. Looks very clean, but has some rust on the back of the valves for #1.

    Also, its from a 93 insted of 95. Does that change anything?

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  • Stu
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    Joe, it might be a good idea to use the stock, lower redline chip if you swap in the M44. Unlike the M42, the 1.9 has a cast crank that isn't fully counterweighted. Keep the redline at 6500 instead of 7000 for the sake of reliability...and gas prices!

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