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    #31
    Originally posted by acolella76 View Post
    non-M E36 = Mcoupe/roadster = 96-99 M3, the 96-99 m3 does have slightly less travel.
    But how do they differ from an E30 rack?

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      #32
      the stock E30 mean ratio is about 20:1

      so even the "worst" '95 M3 at ~17:1 is an upgrade
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        #33
        Originally posted by nando View Post
        the stock E30 mean ratio is about 20:1

        so even the "worst" '95 M3 at ~17:1 is an upgrade
        What is the travel of the E30 rack vs. the 95 M3 rack do you know?
        -Alex

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          #34
          This might have been covered earlier in the thread, but I didn't see it. What kind of hardware/spacers are needed to bolt the E36 rack to the E30 front subframe? I kind of mocked/test fitted mine yesterday, and it seems like there's a ton of space between the mounting brackets on the subframe where the rack mounts.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Janderson View Post
            This might have been covered earlier in the thread, but I didn't see it. What kind of hardware/spacers are needed to bolt the E36 rack to the E30 front subframe? I kind of mocked/test fitted mine yesterday, and it seems like there's a ton of space between the mounting brackets on the subframe where the rack mounts.
            You need aluminum spacers for the subframe. some say you need them from the knuckle for non airbag cars, but i've seen non airbag cars use the stock knuckle. You can buy the spacers at AKG or Zionsville or lots of places. Or you could probably go to a hardware store and get some... i have no idea what sizes though.
            -Alex

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              #36
              Originally posted by acolella76 View Post
              You need aluminum spacers for the subframe. some say you need them from the knuckle for non airbag cars, but i've seen non airbag cars use the stock knuckle. You can buy the spacers at AKG or Zionsville or lots of places. Or you could probably go to a hardware store and get some... i have no idea what sizes though.
              Do they go on the top or the bottom? I could make my own.

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                #37
                If your car is very low or you race it, you can put them on the bottom to help correct bump steer, but normally they go on top.
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Todd Black 88 View Post
                  If your car is very low or you race it, you can put them on the bottom to help correct bump steer, but normally they go on top.
                  This. Used a nylon spacer and harware from local hardware store.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Janderson View Post
                    This might have been covered earlier in the thread, but I didn't see it. What kind of hardware/spacers are needed to bolt the E36 rack to the E30 front subframe? I kind of mocked/test fitted mine yesterday, and it seems like there's a ton of space between the mounting brackets on the subframe where the rack mounts.
                    I remember finding the part numbers for the hardware needed in the DYI section. Dont recall the part numbers myself, but you can source these parts at the dealer. Thats where i got mines, i bought all the bushing that where described in that thread, but only ended up using two of them. huge improvement, probably one of the best upgrades i've ever done.
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                      #40
                      I'm in need of a new steering rack, and definitely wanted to take this opportunity to upgrade. So what are some typical costs of different racks as compared to buying another oem e30 rack?

                      non-M Z3 rack = $???
                      96-99 M3 rack = $???
                      stock e30 rack = $???
                      non-M E36 rack = $???
                      95 M3 rack = $???
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                        #41
                        Bump! Also interested to know pricing and where to get it.

                        Originally posted by flamesone View Post
                        I'm in need of a new steering rack, and definitely wanted to take this opportunity to upgrade. So what are some typical costs of different racks as compared to buying another oem e30 rack?

                        non-M Z3 rack = $???
                        96-99 M3 rack = $???
                        stock e30 rack = $???
                        non-M E36 rack = $???
                        95 M3 rack = $???

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                          #42
                          thanks for the info Wh33lhop! just saw this now and i was about to buy a Z3 rack for myself, but i was second-guessing the call. this really helped me along with my decision!

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                            #43
                            Now I have a question. Who has a standard Z3 rack without power steering? How much is the overall turning radius effected compared to the standard E30 rack?
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                              #44
                              I just replalced my soon-to-fall-off-the-car stock e30 rack with one from a '98 M3. While I love the improved performance, it definitely takes some getting used to. The progressive steering is REAL tight in the middle. The wheel doesn't completely straighten out on it's own after a 90 degree turn, so you have to do it manually. Which is fine, but my brain hasn't let that new piece of information sink in quite yet, so I often NEARLY crash into parked cars.
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                                #45
                                Originally posted by BrooklynMW View Post
                                The wheel doesn't completely straighten out on it's own after a 90 degree turn, so you have to do it manually.
                                Something else is wrong. This would not be the fault of the rack, unless you have a bent one.
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