Rear ended, cracked oil pan.

[walktheboard]

20 mph to a old 1980s bmw. not ok ;)

The sad part is, I was going to post a thread last night about how e30s are tanks!

[freeride53]

edit: big piece of american shit @ 20 mph to a old 1980s bmw. not ok ;)

[walktheboard]

dude, his fucking AIRBAGS went off? that was a serious impact bro. Are you sure your frame isn't tweaked?



most airbag systems don't got off unless it's an impact where you'd need it. like... 20+mph.

Yeah, that's what I'm worried about. I'm not sure if my frame was damaged or not. We both agreed he was going 20+mph

If you have to make this thread, ask yourself are you two really friends?



Seriously, just ask him to help/pay to fix the damage(s).

I'm just trying to see the best way to do it, I'm not struggling with him about it, he knows he's at fault

I would guess his motor mounts were already toast and the shock from the accident caused the motor to smack into something.

this is what I'm thinking.
but no, I didn't know they were toast already. I've looked them over(while still on the car, though) and they looked fine.

If I was paying attention:

You have no rear damage on your car?

you knew that your car had suspect engine mounts?

The collision cracked the oil pan due to the whiplash allowed by poor engine mounts would be your argument?

I don't think you should chase your careless friend for compensation.

50/50 fault for oil pan involvement.

No rear damage plus good drive train mounts would be no oil pan/engine damage.



If you want $$ from your friend, you should have screamed, grabbed your neck and called insurance last week.



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There's no damage on my car, at least, from what I can see. You can see where the bumper shocks were pushed in a good half inch or better from some very light scratches where the bumper trim left marks.

I didn't know the engine mounts were bad(and still don't, they are stripped out now and I can't get them off), just the tranny.

Yes, some formof whiplash from the accident caused this. It really couldn't have happened from anything else.

How is this 50% my fault? I was rear ended when he wasn't paying attention.

It happened 2 mornings ago.

[7pilot]

If I was paying attention:
You have no rear damage on your car?
you knew that your car had suspect engine mounts?
The collision cracked the oil pan due to the whiplash allowed by poor engine mounts would be your argument?
I don't think you should chase your careless friend for compensation.
50/50 fault:) for oil pan involvement.
No rear damage plus good drive train mounts would be no oil pan/engine damage.

If you want $$ from your friend, you should have screamed, grabbed your neck and called insurance last week.

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[Massive Lee]

if you believe the car is worth keeping, replace the oil pan yourself.

Give you friend choices. Punch him in the face, sodomize him, or have him change the pan. No need to involve insurance for that.

How are the rear ending and the cracked pan related?

[M325i]

I still don't get how a rear end collision cracked the oil pan.

I would guess his motor mounts were already toast and the shock from the accident caused the motor to smack into something.

[325ix]

I still don't get how a rear end collision cracked the oil pan.

[ck_taft325is]

Take it to insurance.

If he has a problem with that, then tell him he can buy you a new e30. Otherwise, he's not really a friend. He fucked up, he'll have to man up and take care of it now.

Oh yeah, and start paying attention.

[Jean]

If you have to make this thread, ask yourself are you two really friends?

Seriously, just ask him to help/pay to fix the damage(s).

[freeride53]

My friend's insurance just gave me a $1100 check last week.
Don't trip. ;)

[Jaxx_]

dude, his fucking AIRBAGS went off? that was a serious impact bro. Are you sure your frame isn't tweaked?

most airbag systems don't got off unless it's an impact where you'd need it. like... 20+mph.

[walktheboard]

the mounts are prone to separate, the rubber can look fine, but the metal disc that the threaded stud is welded to separates from the rubber part. Not saying yours are bad, but definitely check them.

sounds good, I'll go ahead and order them, heck, gotta jack up the motor anyways, right? :P

so many edits
I just found more damage, on the fan shroud there is a nice, fresh gouge from where the powersteering pump's bolts rubbed into it. Also, the motor mount bolts are stripped???
What should I look for next?

[Rigmaster]

the rubber on the mounts look fresh, but I do need new trans mounts.
unfortunately he'd be more in the way than help probably, haha.
but I can definitely get him to pay for it.
Thanks for the advice, guys

the mounts are prone to separate, the rubber can look fine, but the metal disc that the threaded stud is welded to separates from the rubber part. Not saying yours are bad, but definitely check them.

[walktheboard]

the rubber on the mounts look fresh, but I do need new trans mounts.
unfortunately he'd be more in the way than help probably, haha.
but I can definitely get him to pay for it.
Thanks for the advice, guys

[Rigmaster]

If you file an insurance claim on your friend's insurance, his rates will probably go up for a couple of years.

Sounds like you should ask him to buy you a new (used) pan AND then help you replace it.

Based on the info you've given so far, I'd avoid filing an insurance claim if at all possible.


EDIT: Oh, I'd replace the motor mounts too while you're at it, they're likely broken and that's why it was so easy for the engine to shift back and crack the pan when you got rear ended.