65 in 60 = Speeding Ticket??

[Mullet Bullet]

I live in Seattle and I speed, you know the limit, you were speeding, grow up and pay the fine or fight it.

[Freude am Fahren]

I contest speeding tickets on a daily basis. Have done enough research on this topic to write a fucking thesis and get a PhD. So far I have gotten away with 80 per cent of my speeding tickets. The ones I lost were because I was too lazy to show up to the court and make the judge's head dizzy with my elaborate explanation of why the douche that cited me was wrong and I am right. The concept is quite simple: Is your time worth more than 95 bucks or not. If the answer is yes, then request to go to court, plead guilty and enjoy the 30 per cent discount they give you on your citation. If the answer is no, then PM me and I'll teach you how to get out of it. If you want to fight it, it will take 3 full days out of your schedule. Is that worth 95 bucks or more? I would say fuck yeah since I'm a med student and every second of free time I have is worth a gem. If you are convinced to fight this, then plan accordingly. Citations are disgusting. Everyone on this thread that told you yeah it's your fault man up and pay the money and quit bitching is less of a man than they think they are. If my fellow man gets a citation I sympathize, regardless of whose fault it was. If you are too cute to sympathize, well have your testicles examined, chances are they haven't quite descended yet.

[ohthejosh]

I thought your insurance rate goes up because of the points. That's why traffic school ==> no points ==> no insurance rate change. Isn't this the case?

sorry i meant to say "fcked me over", they raised my rates before i finished my course. then when i finished the course refused to return my rate. some back and forth i got it back to normal. That was a waste of time too because i got another speeding ticket and it raised anyways.

[smooth]

Second thought on this is entering on an onramp. To my knowledge (more than the previous statement) it is legal to "speed" when merging from an onramp.

It's never legal to exceed the posted limit. It's not even allowable to avoid an accident.

i didn't read the whole thread but here's my input:
the posted speed limit is merely a 'suggested' speed to drive at. you can drive a little over, no problem. 5 miles over the limit is totally fine given that the road and weather conditions and amount of traffic allow it to be fine, in other words, safe. i'm not sure how it is in other states, but in california we have the 'basic speed law' which in short states that you can only drive at a speed that is safe and not endangering others and 5 mph over the limit is not dangerious imo, but that's just me and i'm no cop. but if it was sunny, a nice and dry paved road, and light to medium traffic, 5 mph over doesn't mean shit and i personally think you should fight it.

Speed limits are not "suggestions."

The basic speed law means you can't drive 65 on a windy road in the snow regardless of the posted limit being 65. It does not mean you can drive 70 on a posted 65 because it's straight and sunny.

[Massimo]

all the people who say shit like this are just trolling. getting a ticket for being 5mph over the posted speed limit is lame as shit. you all drive faster then the posted speed limit and you know it. most people drive at least 5mph over. stop being so self righteous. you would be a bit pissed as well.
edit: if you can prove that by driving over 5mph you were not endangering anyone or their property and were driving safely for the road conditions I am sure the judge will drop the case. 5mph is laughable. i also suggest you do this by written declaration. if you go to court the cop gets paid for showing up. if you do it by written declaration the cop gets paid nothing for doing his paperwork and proving his case, thus cutting back on the chance that he will try at all. read all the speed laws for washington and write yourself a nice fat argument. i dont know what the laws in wa say but here in cali you have the right to do traffic school and get your fine reduced even after the judge decided against you the first time.

Bit late on the respons here but I need to defend my words LOL.

Yeh it is lame and dose suck but once again he was speeding. Why is that hard to understand. Law states around the world not just USA that the speed limit is the maximum speed you are allowed to drive on that road. If you are 1mph over then have broken the law. I drive 5-10km/h every where I drive if I get a ticket well that is my own fault.

Cops are people who have bad and good days just like everyone else. That is why there is a court system if you think what happened was unfair because the Cop was having a bad day or being a dick take it to court.

It is like comparing someone who steals $500 from a register at a supermarket and someone who steals loaf of bread. While the two have a very different impact on all involved it dose not mean that the person who stole the loaf of bread should get away scott free.

On saying that at $90 fine I think is a waste of time they would be better making you do an hour or two of community service or something like that.

[Ayman]

not correct:

"California has a "Basic Speed Law." This law means that you may never drive faster than is safe for current conditions. For example, if you are driving 45 mph in a 55 mph speed zone during a dense fog, you could be cited for driving "too fast for conditions." You may never legally drive faster than the posted speed limit, even if you think it is safe."

Thats the first paragraph. More....

"Driving faster than the posted speed limit, or driving faster than safe for current conditions on any road is dangerous and illegal. High speed increases your stopping distance. The faster you go, the less time you have to avoid a hazard or collision. The force of a 60 mph crash is not just twice as great as a 30 mph crash, it’s four times as great!"

http://dmv.ca.gov/pubs/hdbk/speed_limits.htm

It's never legal to exceed the posted limit. It's not even allowable to avoid an accident.


Speed limits are not "suggestions."

The basic speed law means you can't drive 65 on a windy road in the snow regardless of the posted limit being 65. It does not mean you can drive 70 on a posted 65 because it's straight and sunny.

aaaah both you guys are right and that's what i meant. i never did say you can drive over the speed limit through a dense fog or on a windy road in the snow. i said you can drive a little over the speed limit if it's safe to do so. you can totally get away with driving 10 mph over the limit in a 40 mph zone if its a sunny day, minimal traffic, smooth and dry road.

[gath]

I'll fight the ticket for sure, btw, it is not about the $93, and I know 1 over the limit is speeding.. I was pissed coz all other vehicles were doing more or less the same speed.. but anyway, I'll handle it. Thnx for all those who understand.

[Mlarsen]

To everyone in this thread.....

[Massimo]

I'll fight the ticket for sure, btw, it is not about the $93, and I know 1 over the limit is speeding.. I was pissed coz all other vehicles were doing more or less the same speed.. but anyway, I'll handle it. Thnx for all those who understand.

Reminds me of a joke which is kind of serious.

I man was driving in peak hour traffic when a police man pulls him over.
The man asks the officer what he was doing wrong.
The officer replies, "You were speeding."
The man was a bit frustrated with that answer and proceeded to say, "Officer I was just following the flow of the traffic."
The officer looked at the man and asked, "Do you like to fish?"
The man was a bit puzzled but replied, "Yes I do."
The officer then said, "Well have you ever caught all the fish at once?"

[mrsleeve]

get read to have you mind blown, really traffic tickets are not about safety its about the money.

http://money.msn.com/auto-insurance/town-slams-brakes-on-traffic-tickets-carinsurance.aspx?GT1=33033

Results are kinda like when MT had no speed limit during the day on good conditions accidents went down WAY DOWN.