BMW N series Engines WTF?

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  • e30trooper
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    Originally posted by Anguz
    Meh i'll keep my M20 . Thank you.
    right

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  • Anguz
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    Meh i'll keep my M20 . Thank you.

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  • Massimo
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    Yeh I see what you mean. Sometimes I wish I was a electronic engineer I would be all over this hahaha.

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  • blueapplesoda
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    In my eyes, it would be an ECU with so many I/Os, like some sort of constant cam angle control, plus you have to deal with constant variable double vanos on top of that, then factor in the back up drive-by-wire system, direct fuel injection systems....

    We are still on mechanical throttle cables. As aftermarket standalones go, we are just beginning to break into the tech automotive OEMs used factory 25+ years ago. We are definitely catching up very fast...but we aren't quite there yet. All of the "solutions" are usually in the $8-10k range, and for most normal humans, that's a bit outrageous for a little box filled with plastic, copper, silicone, and tin.

    Eventually my friend. Give it another 3-5 years and standalones will be cheap enough to run the already outdated n52 engines. Like factory OE, not some bullshit cam-locked excuses...

    To me that's like saying "I can't figure out the computer, so I'll just ditch fuel injection for Carburetors"

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  • Massimo
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    Originally posted by blueapplesoda
    Valvetronic tech is pretty sweet. Throttle control using the valves instead of a butterfly. Direct injection is also very sweet.

    Your standalone would cost alot as its gotta do alot of things that our basic standalones can't do right now...
    Yeh that is true.

    IDK though I am sure the signal for the Valvetronic is liner, with a bit of solder and some chips I am sure you could create a circuit system to give the correct signal for the valvetronic, and also a signal output for the stand alone. Bit of work but well worth it I recon.

    I have heard of manufactures trying to create valve train systems that use magnets instead with infinite variable control. If that ever takes off it would seem as though the combustion engine will have reached its full potential. No to mention you would not even need to have a intake just a filter for race engines on AlphaN LOL

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  • blueapplesoda
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    Valvetronic tech is pretty sweet. Throttle control using the valves instead of a butterfly. Direct injection is also very sweet.

    Your standalone would cost alot as its gotta do alot of things that our basic standalones can't do right now...

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  • Massimo
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    Originally posted by VinniE30
    I was referring to the N52 BTW, not the N54. N52 is lighter, it's all aluminum and magnesium.




    This would be cool in an e30. Never been done before from what I could find on the web so whoever does it can claim to be the first.
    No shit it is only 30kg more then a M42 . Well If I had one I would be happy to be the first. Though it would be on stand alone. Fuck trying to get the oem ecu to work.

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  • immajackuup
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    subaru motor?

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  • VinniE30
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    I was referring to the N52 BTW, not the N54. N52 is lighter, it's all aluminum and magnesium.

    Producing 63 kW (85.5 hp) per liter of displacement, it has the lowest weight per horsepower of any six cylinder engine (1.24 hp per kilogram with the latest version).


    This would be cool in an e30. Never been done before from what I could find on the web so whoever does it can claim to be the first.

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  • Massimo
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    Originally posted by VinniE30
    We need to start putting these in e30s. They are light. Possibly the lightest 6 cylinder BMW has ever made?
    LOL funny you say that I only came buy this cos I was looking at other 4 banger alternatives with all alloy construction e.g N46 and came across the N54 section at you see.

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  • VinniE30
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    We need to start putting these in e30s. They are light. Possibly the lightest 6 cylinder BMW has ever made?

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  • Raxe
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    Originally posted by Massimo
    Seriously what was wrong with the VANOS in the S52? It was simple and worked.
    What was wrong with the M20? It was simple and worked too, but technology changes bro.

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  • ill4noreason
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  • Dominic49
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    Originally posted by Massimo
    Seriously what was wrong with the VANOS in the S52? It was simple and worked.
    it has nothing to do with the valve timing

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  • Massimo
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    Seriously what was wrong with the VANOS in the S52? It was simple and worked.

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