Can all the pedals just be even?

[noid]

With brakes on race cars, the brake pedal basically doesn't move: it feels like you're steeping on a brick. A car like the Macca F1 will have 3 separate master cylinders (front brake, rear brake, and clutch).

On a street car with a single MC and a large brake booster, the pedal swings down when you brake.

Most aftermarket pedal assemblies also have 2 mc for the brake and 1 for the clutch.

It would only really feel like a brick if you use larger bore MC's. .625 bore with a 6.25:1 pedals requires less then 60 ft lb of leg input force with a travel distance of between 0.5-0.6 inches.

I get what you are saying though, I am just not sure if I agree with it being a problem, especially for someone using it in a street car + looking to solve a distance problem because of height.

[02stu]

You probably know more about it then i do (I dont race), but from what I can tell, the mclaren f1 is all flush:



And why would the three pedal setups like the ones tilton engineering offers be all flush?

That's a surprising picture. Pedals are designed so that when the brake pedal is depressed it is even with the accelerator pedal. That being said I'm 6'3" and have no problem fitting in e30s. Take off your stripper boots

[Emre]

With brakes on race cars, the brake pedal basically doesn't move: it feels like you're steeping on a brick. A car like the Macca F1 will have 3 separate master cylinders (front brake, rear brake, and clutch).

On a street car with a single MC and a large brake booster, the pedal swings down when you brake.

[noid]

You don't want all pedals to be flush. You need the accelerator to be slightly lower than the brake pedal for proper heel-and-toe downshifts. The brake and throttle should be level when the brake is depressed.

You probably know more about it then i do (I dont race), but from what I can tell, the mclaren f1 is all flush:



And why would the three pedal setups like the ones tilton engineering offers be all flush?

[TimKninja]

If you really wanted to you might be able to cut and rethread the brake boosters rod to get it shorter. And for the clutch drain the fluid out of the system and re bleed the system til the clutch is at the height you want.

[Emre]

That way all three pedals will be of equal distance.

You don't want all pedals to be flush. You need the accelerator to be slightly lower than the brake pedal for proper heel-and-toe downshifts. The brake and throttle should be level when the brake is depressed.

[HR2L]

Im talking about stock guys, can you adjust them close?

Unfortunately no. :(

[bastianshaw]

Im talking about stock guys, can you adjust them close?

[Varinn]

Moving the seat back only works to a point. Straight arming the wheel is bad for control, I'm 6'3" and sit with my arms at a decent bend for control, just makes getting in/out harder, and the pedals are real close

[Wschnitz]

ARe they just to close together or are the pedals too close to you, ie legs in dash. If its just too close make bigger seat brakets so you can slide farther back.

[noid]

The PDF shows what modifications need to be made to the firewall. Alternatively you could get a three pedal aftermarket assembly. That way all three pedals will be of equal distance.

[devon.818]

cut and weld?/////////////////////////////////////////

[Farbin Kaiber]

But how much room is the question. I also think having the brake pedal pad moved closer to the clutch will help me stop reving the engine when I press the brake.

[noid]

Send me your email, and ill send you the PDF, of what it takes to install with that guys bracket. Using dual .625 MC bore for the brakes with 6.25:1 ratio pedals, you should have a daily-able setup.

[Farbin Kaiber]

I was hoping to find out what changes in footwell space are made with the boosterless setup Jean and Jgood and Garey have been talking about, no info on that was given yet though.