M20 Turbo or.....

[henryki]

just wondering, how many penises have you had inserted into your body within the last 24 hours?

lmfao. Didn't even see that.

[TeXJ]

I want to do a LSx swap so bad, but the cost is way up there. From what I've seen and research, the LSx swap will be about double to the turbo setup.

Turbo ~$3500-$4k

LSx swap $9k-$14k+(depending on what you do during the swap, motor upgrades,...etc)

[BobombETA]

Unless the 5.0 is already in hand or free I'd skip it and do an LSx swap, and I'm a Ford guy.

LSx is just a better engine, plus with a t56 you will be hitting 30mpg on the highway.

[JCarp90]

just wondering, how many penises have you had inserted into your body within the last 24 hours?

[henryki]

or save up for a ls swap. honestly it seems like a fag would drive this car tho :/

only a fag uses attached images, photo bucket bro.

[fuzzymealchosenone]

or save up for a ls swap. honestly it seems like a fag would drive this car tho :/

[fuzzymealchosenone]

5.0s are for fags, man.

just wondering, how many penises have you had inserted into your body within the last 24 hours?

http://fordracingparts123.com/crate-...FRGCfgodpXEAOg

or

gtfo

dude now that would be sick. i bet it would fit too, they have whole wiring/ecu kits to run these engines in basically anything

[henryki]

They are completely different ways of making power, there is no right or wrong, and you'll have to be the one who makes the decision. A 5.0 has tons of low end power, there's no waiting. As soon as you crack the throttle it's making gobs of power at any RPM. I know people talk about smaller turbo's not having lag, etc... but there is absolutely no comparison to the instantaneous power delivery at low RPM's of a large displacement engine. There's also no comparison to the feel and sound of a turbo spooling. So decide what you want.

I chose the m60. Lots of low end power, and keeps making power til 6500 RPM's. 260whp/wtrq. Will last 300k+ miles, is easy to work on, and is as reliable as a stock m20. If I do break it, I can find one in a junkyard for $150 all day. Once the initial work for the swap was done, it now takes me about 2 hours to remove the engine with the removable core support, from pulling the car in the garage to laying the engine on the pallet. And a 5.0 is MUCH smaller then an m60, so there is plenty of room, don't let that concern you.

Thanks for the good info, might not have an E30 after this weekend, might be trading it for a 90 E34 535i 5 Speed, so we'll see. If I don't trade the car then 5.0 Swap, if I do I'll rock the E34 for a bit then get another E30 eventually.

[JGood]

They are completely different ways of making power, there is no right or wrong, and you'll have to be the one who makes the decision. A 5.0 has tons of low end power, there's no waiting. As soon as you crack the throttle it's making gobs of power at any RPM. I know people talk about smaller turbo's not having lag, etc... but there is absolutely no comparison to the instantaneous power delivery at low RPM's of a large displacement engine. There's also no comparison to the feel and sound of a turbo spooling. So decide what you want.

I chose the m60. Lots of low end power, and keeps making power til 6500 RPM's. 260whp/wtrq. Will last 300k+ miles, is easy to work on, and is as reliable as a stock m20. If I do break it, I can find one in a junkyard for $150 all day. Once the initial work for the swap was done, it now takes me about 2 hours to remove the engine with the removable core support, from pulling the car in the garage to laying the engine on the pallet. And a 5.0 is MUCH smaller then an m60, so there is plenty of room, don't let that concern you.

[henryki]

From what I've read on forums like this; the 5.0 with alloy heads is the same weight as an M50(so, 20kg heavier than an M20?). Though, being 2 cylinders shorter, the weight distribution and handling should feel better than an M50, maybe even better than an M20.

The exact reason why I want to do the swap, ton of low end torque and the motor sits way back in the engine bay, no replacement for displacement!

[obrian]

My car is a turbo m20, I think a domestic v8 would be a lot easier to drive as a drift car no doubt. Power wise not much different, it's just how that power is delivered.

[3vilE30]

5.3LS motor.......

If your going v8, mind as well go lsx. 5.0's are a waste unless you're going for a cheap thrill, lsx motors are lightweight and have more power stock than the 5.0 not to mention the massive aftermarket support for the lsx.
M20 turbo was my goal, but you'll inevitably reach the limits of an m20 rather quickly. Even though the power goals you are after are reasonable anything after 400 requires major work.



S52 swap
Wait and save up
Turbo it.
/thread

[IronFreak]

What's the weight of the iron block LS like compared to the relatively lightweight SBF?

Same if not lighter. all the iron blocks came stock with aluminum heads. you can pick them up cheap too. I got mine with 67k miles, all accessories, trans and full harness with ecu for $700.

[Hooffenstein HD]

What's the weight of that 5.0 VS the M20??
I went from S38->M20 turbo, because of the weight difference, and I'm doing it, because here in Denmark everybody is swapping M50 in their E30.
I'm Building a light weight E30, so the engine has to be light to, or else the balance of the car would be ruined.

From what I've read on forums like this; the 5.0 with alloy heads is the same weight as an M50(so, 20kg heavier than an M20?). Though, being 2 cylinders shorter, the weight distribution and handling should feel better than an M50, maybe even better than an M20.

[Der Ruffian]

What's the weight of that 5.0 VS the M20??
I went from S38->M20 turbo, because of the weight difference, and I'm doing it, because here in Denmark everybody is swapping M50 in their E30.
I'm Building a light weight E30, so the engine has to be light to, or else the balance of the car would be ruined.