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    Originally posted by getouth View Post
    If anyone needs to know where the E30 market is going, look no furthur than the 2002 market of a decade and a half ago.... the trends are extremely identical.
    Quoted for truth.
    "I'd probably take the E30 M3 in this case just because I love that little car, and how tanky that inline 6 is." - thecj

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    88 M3 - LACHSSILBER/SCHWARZE
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      What gets my ruffles ruffled is BMW continuing non support of E30 factory parts. It's one thing to say meh, let's not produce door handles anymore - that's stuff the aftermbcan reproduce. But shiate like dash's, a part they know fails over time, and can not be repaired convincingly like original, they won't reproduce consistently.



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      1991 325i MT2 Touring (JDM bro)
      1991 Racecar (Chase Schmidt's former drift car - M30)
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        Originally posted by varg View Post
        The selling price of that car will say a lot about the state of the E30 market. It's nothing special, not a mint all original car, not a survivor, not low mileage, not unmodified. It's just a good looking high mileage E30. If it turns out to be expensive it'll be another sign of the E30 dwindling days as a mod happy enthusiast's car and transition to a collector's ornament.
        I think we're already there. I've sold 2 nothing special 87' verts recently. One even had rust for way more than what you could have gotten it for 3-5 years ago.

        Honestly, I think it might happen to E34's as well just for being adjacent to E30's. Especially 540i M-sports.

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          LS3 Touring is up now.

          Comments are already whining about lack of AC.

          Most of the US needs AC?

          Sounds like something a Californian would say. Since most of the states exist above the Mason Dixon where we maybe use the AC a couple months of the year, this cracks me up.

          Wasn't the build thread on this car here in the archive somewhere?

          EDIT: Sorry for ragging on Cali, but god dammit, if you move from Cali here, stop telling us how great California is - then why did you leave, and why do so many people register their cars in other states or through Montana LLC's then.. ARGH!! (I'm fine, just need to rant before my coffee kicks in.)
          Last edited by djjerme; 05-16-2019, 07:54 AM.
          1984 Alpina B6 2.8/1 #35
          1991 325i MT2 Touring (JDM bro)
          1991 Racecar (Chase Schmidt's former drift car - M30)
          2006 BMW X3
          2011 Audi A3 - wife's other German car

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            Originally posted by djjerme View Post
            Comments are already whining about lack of AC.

            Most of the US needs AC?

            Sounds like something a Californian would say. Since most of the states exist above the Mason Dixon where we maybe use the AC a couple months of the year, this cracks me up.

            Wasn't the build thread on this car here in the archive somewhere?
            You're located in Portland.

            Most of the US, DOES need AC. If temperatures reach the 80's and humidity is above 55... you need AC.

            Besides that, anyone spending big money on a swapped wagon (or any swap) will consider any car without AC a project car. This is not 1950. And most bidders aren't 20 years old. I wouldn't require AC in my early 20's (because idiot)... but I sure as hell would now in my late 30's.
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            87 325 Daily driver Sold
            06 4.8is X5
            06 Mtec X3
            05 4.4i X5 Sold
            92 325ic Sold & Re-purchased
            90 325i Sold
            97 328is Sold
            01 323ci Sold
            92 325i Sold
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              Originally posted by Schnitzer318is View Post
              You're located in Portland.

              Most of the US, DOES need AC. If temperatures reach the 80's and humidity is above 55... you need AC.

              Besides that, anyone spending big money on a swapped wagon (or any swap) will consider any car without AC a project car. This is not 1950. And most bidders aren't 20 years old. I wouldn't require AC in my early 20's (because idiot)... but I sure as hell would now in my late 30's.
              Alright, you went there.

              States that probably don't need AC -

              Oregon,
              Washington,
              Idaho,
              Montana,
              Minnesota,
              Michigan,
              Main,
              Delaware,
              Connecticut,
              RI,
              NY,
              Mass,
              Ill,
              Penn,
              Both Dakota's,
              NH,
              NJ,
              Wisconsin,
              Iowa,
              VT..etc.

              I'm at 20+ now, so I think that nullify's that argument. Again - you're in Texas, so you can't imagine being without AC. There's half the US that didn't have AC regularly in cars until probably the last decade. Growing up in the 70's/80's it was an unnecessary extra weight and gas mileage zapper.

              I'll also throw out the example of the Alpina's - many of them imported grey market never came with AC.
              1984 Alpina B6 2.8/1 #35
              1991 325i MT2 Touring (JDM bro)
              1991 Racecar (Chase Schmidt's former drift car - M30)
              2006 BMW X3
              2011 Audi A3 - wife's other German car

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                There's nothing worse than having a car with broken/deleted a/c.
                It's like the car is teasing you with what you could be enjoying.

                Regardless of my age (or cars age), I always insisted it worked properly on all my cars.
                Despite living in Canada.
                If it's got tits or tires, it's gonna cost ya!

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                  *first world problems.



                  (and me just being bitchy this morning after dealing with homeless camping on the sidewalks around the neighborhood.)
                  Last edited by djjerme; 05-16-2019, 08:15 AM.
                  1984 Alpina B6 2.8/1 #35
                  1991 325i MT2 Touring (JDM bro)
                  1991 Racecar (Chase Schmidt's former drift car - M30)
                  2006 BMW X3
                  2011 Audi A3 - wife's other German car

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                    Originally posted by djjerme View Post
                    I'm at 20+ now, so I think that nullify's that argument.
                    As I said... 20YO's will deal without because, well, they're in their 20's. The "cool" factor of the car makes up for the lack of cool on their face. You grow out of that.

                    Originally posted by djjerme View Post
                    There's half the US that didn't have AC regularly in cars until probably the last decade.
                    What? In my lifetime, my parents have never owned a car without air conditioning. Model years range from the 70's through present. Foreign and domestic. I have never owned a car without AC... that's like 25+ cars. And as soon as the AC went down in one of the E30's or E28... you bet it was priority 1.

                    Have been all over the States, lived in 5 of them... You need AC all over. Again, this isn't 1950. People didn't have cell phones until the 90's either. Try going without one of those. Just because people did without something at some point in history doesn't mean we can still do without it. Try not having indoor plumbing? How about electricity? Those last to are obviously reductio ad absurdum, but it illustrates the point.
                    "A good memory for quotes combined with a poor memory for attribution can lead to a false sense of originality."
                    -----------------------------------------
                    91 318is Turbo Sold
                    87 325 Daily driver Sold
                    06 4.8is X5
                    06 Mtec X3
                    05 4.4i X5 Sold
                    92 325ic Sold & Re-purchased
                    90 325i Sold
                    97 328is Sold
                    01 323ci Sold
                    92 325i Sold
                    83 528e Totaled
                    98 328i Sold
                    93 325i Sold

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                      Your list is way too long. Any state which sees 80+ during the summer is AC required. AC is also a great asset when it's raining and not cold. How would you rather defog your windows in a rainstorm when it's already warm out? Blast your heater or just turn the AC on? If it's not a race car, AC delete is silly, and if there's space for it after a swap not having it is just laziness.
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                        Originally posted by djjerme View Post
                        Sounds like something a Californian would say. Since most of the states exist above the Mason Dixon where we maybe use the AC a couple months of the year, this cracks me up.

                        Wasn't the build thread on this car here in the archive somewhere?

                        EDIT: Sorry for ragging on Cali, but god dammit, if you move from Cali here, stop telling us how great California is - then why did you leave, and why do so many people register their cars in other states or through Montana LLC's then.. ARGH!! (I'm fine, just need to rant before my coffee kicks in.)
                        That looks like Joels (OlDrunkenSailor) old car. He originally built it on a 318is that got totalled by some idiot in Portland, luckily he had a big stated value coverage and built this with the remainder, but I think the love was gone. He isnt really one to turn a wrench and was paying shops to do his work, so no surprise it was easy to let go of
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                          Originally posted by 2mAn View Post
                          That looks like Joels (OlDrunkenSailor) old car. He originally built it on a 318is that got totalled by some idiot in Portland, luckily he had a big stated value coverage and built this with the remainder, but I think the love was gone. He isnt really one to turn a wrench and was paying shops to do his work, so no surprise it was easy to let go of

                          That's right - he had it on CL forever up here for a healthy amount. Wondered what had become of it. The pics he had on his CL ad were actually really nice, I def remember it now.
                          1984 Alpina B6 2.8/1 #35
                          1991 325i MT2 Touring (JDM bro)
                          1991 Racecar (Chase Schmidt's former drift car - M30)
                          2006 BMW X3
                          2011 Audi A3 - wife's other German car

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                            As a resident of Nevada plus a few on preferred a/c. However, I can see the counter argument as well. The touring is cool, pun intended.

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                              Originally posted by varg View Post
                              Your list is way too long.
                              Agreed.
                              Also, shouldn't Alaska be on there too? They are practically near the North Pole.
                              If it's got tits or tires, it's gonna cost ya!

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                                I've been driving without AC in my E30's for 20 years and I live in SoCal. I don't daily them though. Most of the time the blower with windows down is enough.
                                "I'd probably take the E30 M3 in this case just because I love that little car, and how tanky that inline 6 is." - thecj

                                85 323i M TECH 1 S52 - ALPINEWEISS/SCHWARZE
                                88 M3 - LACHSSILBER/SCHWARZE
                                89 M3 - ALPINEWEISS II/M TECH CLOTH-ALCANTARA
                                91 M TECHNIC CABRIO TURBO - MACAOBLAU/M TECH CLOTH-LEATHER

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