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Originally posted by Ygtbsm1969So buy a E30 for $12,000 and take care of it, enjoy it and in 10 or 20 years sell it for 24,000 or maybe more. E30 in nice maintained condition will not lose value and will keep its own against inflation.
It's not a replacement for savings, investments, or real-estate but they diversify your portfolio, and it's not taxed. I would also rather change the oil on my cars than check the email for my new balance.
Talking about them as investments in mental health to go out and run to redline a few times, or do a valve adjustment for some wrench therapy- that I can do. I pay money for those smiles per mile.
I need to dig out the window sticker from my first '90 325i.
Originally posted by AwakenNoMore View PostCirrus Blue missing from the paint list? oopsie
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Originally posted by nando View Post^ says to not take investment advice from random forum posters, proceeds to give long winded post about investment advice.. uhhh.
I must be doing well above average then.. *shrug* :)
And he gives bad advice at that.
Leading by example I guess
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Originally posted by Ygtbsm1969Never take investment advice from a forum and a guy that bounces around throwing rocks and running.
I must be doing well above average then.. *shrug* :)
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The entire classic/collectible car market has taken a huge upswing since the recession. A lot of cars are worth 3 times as much now as they were 10 years ago (E30 M3, D90 NAS, etc.)
That's great some of you still have the window sticker! Mine doesn't have it, but I do have the order form for the second owner who bought it used at the BMW dealer. He paid $18k in 94 for the 90 325is and they gave him $2k in trade for an 86 Subaru. Amazing that the BMW was so much more even though it was only 4 years newer.
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The above matches my window sticker as well.
Model
1987 325is
Color Cinnabar Red
Interior Black Leather
Suggested Retail Price 26,990.00
Dealer Preparation Charge 190.00
Destination And Handling Charge 295.00
Total Suggested Retail Price 27,475.00
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I have the window sticker from our 1987 325is ...
1987 325isA
Color Delphin
Interior Black Leather
Suggested Retail Price $26,990
Options:
4 Speed Overdrive Automatic Transmission $595
Metallic Paint $335
Dealer Preparation Charge $190
Destination and Handling Charge $295
Total Suggested Retail Price $28,405
The "is" included all the other options like sport seats, front and rear spoilers, electric sunroof, 13 button OBC, 14" weave wheels, etc.
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yeah, there are exceptions - but mostly if you bought a car brand new, and never used it, you're not likely to even break even, much less make a profit - not even considering the opportunity cost of not 'investing' that money somewhere better...
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I've watched great '73 911 S-trim cars go from $75k in '07/08 to over $300k in 2015.
That's an ROI I can approve of, but it's not something even we in the business could have anticipated.
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If you put $40k into stocks in 1991 and you got a 5% ROI, which is stupid low, you'd have $123,059 after 27 years.
At 7%, which is still low, it would be $190,452. So yeah... you'd have about 5x that much. At $1000 per year additional investment, which we'd say was maintenance and insurance, you'd have $257,429.
Just in case, you know, you were wondering.
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I had the window sticker for mine somewhere. it was like $45,000 in 1991.. pretty crazy if you think about it. that's like $85k in today's dollars.
If you bought a brand new M3 and stuck it in a bubble, it might be worth $100k. But if you put that same $40,000 into stocks back then, you'd probably have 5x that much.
moral of the story: drive your cars and enjoy them, because they're not going to make you rich..
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Originally posted by Andrew325is View PostYeah, that's pretty interesting, especially since M3s are worth so much more now than all the other E30s, even the rare 91 M-Technic verts (which cost about $40,600). I guess just cause of demand.
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