123d

[SchnellerVert]

We they feds had a great infomertial on the new diesel for semi's. It was there way of trying to justify the way diesel which cost the least amount to refine costs the most at the pump.

The mandated Clean diesel eons ago but the oil companies used it as a way to jam it to the consumers.

Corporate greed is really hurting the country imo.

[CorvallisBMW]

Overweight.....Outpriced in the US market for the ones we are getting right now. Should have captialized on the market with these three years ago. Why hasn't BMW offered Clean diesels here in the US? Afraid there sales will slump on other cars? Or Image?

We have Euro diesels here...low sulfur was mandatory in January of 2007. MB has E series diesel and ML diesels. GM should offer their Opel chassis with one to bring up sales.

Ya, we have low sulfer diesel. But the manufacturers have been warry about importing diesels here to the states because it is very hard to get them certified in states with more stringent emmisions regulations (Cali, Vermont, Mass, etc.) The problem is not that they pollute too much, but that they put out more NOx than a gasoline car; Those emissions laws make no exception for diesel powered cars. So although a diesel may release much less CO2 than a gas car, the NOx emissions are slightly higher and therefor make them very hard or impossible to get past the state EPA. They could still sell the cars them in 45 of the 50 states, but with Cali being one of the biggest markets they don't want to loose out on such a lucrative opportunity. It's also just a lot more red tape and $ to have to go through state-by-state registration. That's why Mercedes has come out with their BluTec system and why VW will have a similar one in the coming months. These both us Urea injection to nearly eliminate NOx from the tailpipe (soot is already taken care of with particle filters, those work in all 50 states). So yes, some of those Merc diesels can be sold 50-state wide but the problem is that you have to refill the Urea every 20,000 miles or so. That makes the EPA nervous, because if people don't refill it their emissions will go up. And a good percentage of people would not bother to refill because it costs money. So they are trying to figure out how to make it mandatory or attractive for people to refill their urea systems.

(I read too much)

[SchnellerVert]

Overweight.....Outpriced in the US market for the ones we are getting right now. Should have captialized on the market with these three years ago. Why hasn't BMW offered Clean diesels here in the US? Afraid there sales will slump on other cars? Or Image?

We have Euro diesels here...low sulfur was mandatory in January of 2007. MB has E series diesel and ML diesels. GM should offer their Opel chassis with one to bring up sales.

[AdironRider]

Didnt know much about the 1 series diesel, Im liking what I see.

[CorvallisBMW]

US needs to get it together with the diesel thing. The technology is so much better than anything that gas can produce currently. That 123d makes as much torque as the 135i, but at lower revs while producing twice the fuel economy and about 50% less CO2. I can't wait for the Euro diesels to finally get here!!

[Axxe]

the u.s. needs some D powered BMW's asap

Yeah, I drove a dozen different BMW's last time I was in Europe, and the diesels were by far my favorite. E39 525d, E46 330d ZHP, E36 320d touring, E34 525tds touring. The gas powered ones have less torque and burn a lot more of the much more expensive gasoline.

[z50_Jumper]

204hp and 295lbs AND 45MGP?!?

thats cool....

[devonjordan]

Schweet!!!!!!

[ProE30]

You're gay! As usual.

saw the new 1 series coupe with the 204hp 2L diesel in it at the dealer yesterday!! It is by far my favorite recent BMW offering as of lates, a true 2000 era e30 sized car. Definitely getting one in a few years.






FYI: that is 45 mpg

design elements: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZaUZ...eature=related

last note: a diesel that breaks the 100hp/1L barrier is AMAZING to me

[Bruse Wayne]

the u.s. needs some D powered BMW's asap

[Julien]

weird that you say that, 1 series has only received positive remarks (except the 2004 version which had e36 quality interior)... what's up with the front suspension?

[mikeedler]

I think they look way too small! after you have seen it for a day or 2, it looks crappier and crappier. We have had one at my work for a few weeks now, its blue with the M tech kit on it. This Sat. is the big releasing of it. and 1 series are a joke anyway. The quaility of them SUX, and the suspension is garbage- they ALL eat up front tires like crazy. NO WAY you would get me to buy one, anfter working on them everyday.

[FredK]

Cette voiture est laide. Désolé.

[Axxe]

I'd gladly pay the $35.6k I'm expecting to spend on a 135i for a 123d instead.

I wish they'd bring the 335d here. It's a monster, and returns 40 mpg.

[Julien]

Cool.

Still, as always, 24v DOHC + E30 = mine :)

you are useless. eat a multivalved penis. heh