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    OMG that's close to truth man. Haha

    I've only seen 2 electric top cars with functioning tops in the last 5 years... and one of them is my good friend Kyle's. Gorgeous car, and he is so damn careful with that top!! Despite all that, the rod that pushes the top back up snapped right in front of me last spring. Fortunately it's about $80 to replace.

    I do know what I'm getting into here. But yeah it's a delicate system for sure.
    Last edited by bradnic; 04-28-2017, 08:46 AM.
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    88 ix Lach/Card
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    reelizmpro: I will always be an e30 guy.. I still do all of my own labor
    TrentW: There's just something so right about a well-built M20 in an E30
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      Top harness install complete. center stack is getting disassembled for the BT upgrade board and euro clock install.
      Tried the interior lighting out.


      Looks like a bulb is out in the switch. They're soldered in unlike the defroster switch, and the mechanism is a bit delicate with a couple of loose ball bearings. Took me 20 minutes to get it back together right lol. May be stuck buying a new one but they're $113.. ugh.
      EDIT: lucked out with a local parts car - switch lighting fixed.

      Also just realized the top boot lid latches are different between manual and electric top cars. latches are NLA but found some on eBay.
      Last edited by bradnic; 09-03-2017, 06:50 PM.
      I BUY/SELL REFURBISHED CM5907s & CM5908s

      HOWTOs:
      DB vert plastic bumpers
      OEM Keys
      MTech1 docs

      88 ix Lach/Card
      91 ic Calypso 3.1
      86 Cosmo 2.7

      OEM+ or bust!


      reelizmpro: I will always be an e30 guy.. I still do all of my own labor
      TrentW: There's just something so right about a well-built M20 in an E30
      e30m3s54turbo: I save my money for tuner parts.

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        finally installed the IX mirror and my euro clock. mirror connected to the light by the check panel, and I tapped the 4 clock wires into the OBC harness. Nice, clean and fully reversible. Clock worked perfectly once I plugged the cluster back in.


        for anyone looking for the wiring to the euro clock, it's 4 wires from the 6/12 button OBC harness you need to splice into. connector you need is the same as used for the mirrors.

        here are the pics you need from here and specific splicing instructions edited a bit for clarity and completeness:
        Originally posted by bmw325csi View Post
        Once you remove the [multifunction clock or 12 button OBC] you will see a harness which has about 12 wires, you only need 4.

        The analog clock has a # above each pin [and if it came with a euro clock pigtail these are the wire colors on it]
        30-power [red-green]
        31-ground [brown]
        58k-illumination power [grey-red]
        31g-illumination ground [brown-black]

        So what you need to do is grab the [multi-function] clock [or OBC] harness and [splice into] these wires:
        red/white-power
        brown-ground
        gray/red-illumination power
        brown/white-illumination ground
        Last edited by bradnic; 09-03-2017, 06:55 PM.
        I BUY/SELL REFURBISHED CM5907s & CM5908s

        HOWTOs:
        DB vert plastic bumpers
        OEM Keys
        MTech1 docs

        88 ix Lach/Card
        91 ic Calypso 3.1
        86 Cosmo 2.7

        OEM+ or bust!


        reelizmpro: I will always be an e30 guy.. I still do all of my own labor
        TrentW: There's just something so right about a well-built M20 in an E30
        e30m3s54turbo: I save my money for tuner parts.

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          Keep up the good work!

          I'm playing on my project Alpina today. Slave awaying on it like you....
          Projects Hartge,Alpina & AC Schnitzer Builds.http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=280601
          http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=227993
          http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=289362

          DSC04926 by Raul Salinas, on FlickrDSC03413 by Raul Salinas, on Flickr

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            Thinking of the 3.1L stroker.. my favorite build is still tinkerputzer's.. Myster-E / bimmerheads ported head, MM pistons, S52 crank and rods, Schrick 284/272, IE rockers, whodwho MS. Between this thread and digger's I have the bases covered well.

            It looks stock on the exterior, yet over 200lb ft and 210hp at the rear wheels..


            Don't really need more than that in a vert, so the Vortech idea may get shelved. Besides already decided I need an E30 coupe hotrod in my life, after the IX build.

            Will pull the trigger on this later this year.

            SIGH... tinkerputzer's build thread has been photo bucketed.
            Last edited by bradnic; 09-30-2017, 07:54 PM.
            I BUY/SELL REFURBISHED CM5907s & CM5908s

            HOWTOs:
            DB vert plastic bumpers
            OEM Keys
            MTech1 docs

            88 ix Lach/Card
            91 ic Calypso 3.1
            86 Cosmo 2.7

            OEM+ or bust!


            reelizmpro: I will always be an e30 guy.. I still do all of my own labor
            TrentW: There's just something so right about a well-built M20 in an E30
            e30m3s54turbo: I save my money for tuner parts.

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              Originally posted by e30m3s54turbo View Post
              Keep up the good work!

              I'm playing on my project Alpina today. Slave awaying on it like you....
              you too RaĂºl! hope your weather is better than here.

              Getting the rest of the wiring gremlins sorted today. Euro clock works great. Heated seats are working fine again (was just a fuse - need to look into what it should be for heated seats). Door lights and map lights didn't turn on.. that was just a fuse too. Still need to get the battery connection sorted on the stock radio (was losing code when car was shut off). Also a couple of dash lights need replacing. Nothing major.

              Will also swap components between my stock and euro cluster. Hopefully the SI board in the euro cluster still has some time left on its batteries. I did order 2 pairs of the 3 prong LI batteries via an eBay seller in Canada (for this car and my IX). Hopefully they'll get here in a week or so.

              Will post pics once things are back together.
              I BUY/SELL REFURBISHED CM5907s & CM5908s

              HOWTOs:
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              88 ix Lach/Card
              91 ic Calypso 3.1
              86 Cosmo 2.7

              OEM+ or bust!


              reelizmpro: I will always be an e30 guy.. I still do all of my own labor
              TrentW: There's just something so right about a well-built M20 in an E30
              e30m3s54turbo: I save my money for tuner parts.

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                A solid 2.8l M20 with ~10:1 compression will be plenty.
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                  In my opinion if you are buying pistons you might as well go with a 3.* stroker.
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                    Originally posted by 2mAn View Post
                    A solid 2.8l M20 with ~10:1 compression will be plenty.
                    Well I'm not quite with you there. I want to do this motor once. I love all the options available with stroking the M20. Not having to swap pistons is a very serious benefit! But having to live with maybe another 20hp at the wheels from 300cc will just tempt me to go further. Especially when you consider a couple of things

                    - it's going into a vert that in addition to being heavier than a coupe has to lug around all the sh%& ton of stuff I've added to this car :-p

                    - the oversized 45mm bores on the dbilas ITBs need displacement.

                    Originally posted by stonea View Post
                    In my opinion if you are buying pistons you might as well go with a 3.* stroker.
                    agreed. Once you take the piston plunge you may as well go 3.1, unless you've already committed to other parts.

                    btw I freely admit most normal people would probably stroke their m20 before adding ITBs. But the dbilas became available so that's why I started there first. If the RHDs had been available I would have passed.
                    I BUY/SELL REFURBISHED CM5907s & CM5908s

                    HOWTOs:
                    DB vert plastic bumpers
                    OEM Keys
                    MTech1 docs

                    88 ix Lach/Card
                    91 ic Calypso 3.1
                    86 Cosmo 2.7

                    OEM+ or bust!


                    reelizmpro: I will always be an e30 guy.. I still do all of my own labor
                    TrentW: There's just something so right about a well-built M20 in an E30
                    e30m3s54turbo: I save my money for tuner parts.

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                      getting some euro in the cluster

                      continuing the euro theme.. decided long ago I was adding three things

                      - the euro warning lights to the cluster

                      - the rear fog setup - already swapped out the taillight back sections for euro versions

                      - the euro headlamp aiming system. I have the full set of headlight aiming system bits as well. I just haven't decided what to do about the reinforced and padded knee bolster - pretty sure there is no version of that knee bolster in Europe, so no standard way to fit the aiming system control knob in place.

                      I was fortunate enough to receive a PM from Francisco, a local r3ver that just imported a RHD 320i convertible. Seems like there aren't enough euro fanatic E30 types in the area so I was glad he stopped over.

                      The PO wrapped the trim in leather. You can clearly see a sweet mtech2 wheel, all the euro controls and indicators in the pic - dual fog switch, aiming knob, euro indicators in the cluster

                      Suitably inspired and motivated by a dead tach I finally whipped out the euro cluster Levent sold me a while back. Turns out it's a perfect match, identical SI board and build date about a year later than my car. Unfortunately the SI batteries were dead in the euro cluster too.

                      I wanted to keep the US gauges, because the wife didn't want the Km gauge, the econo gauge wouldn't be accurate with my chipped engine and I wasn't ready to switch to liters for the fuel gauge. So I did a quick swap of the gauge panel into the euro housing, along with the code plug. Everything lit up as expected except for 2 things

                      - the indicator for CHECK ENGINE was green instead of orange and blank
                      - the flashing CHECK doesn't appear, because the overlay in the euro cluster doesn't have the check symbol


                      Pulled both clusters completely apart and extracted the indicator overlays, then used my laptop as a light table :-)


                      It was pretty obvious upon inspection that the right side overlays are functionally identical. All I had to do then was make one cut in both left side overlays and splice them together carefully. Then some clear tape and good to go



                      With flash, shows the true colors better


                      Result is great! No tach still but I'll swap the batteries once I get them in. I also swapped out the chrome rings for brushed aluminum, though I still need to fasten them properly and re-glue the lens in place. I may change out the lens for something cleaner or experiment with a cracked one I have to see if I can polish it with 3000 grit paper and headlight restoration glaze.

                      At some point I may add some digital indicators on the left side. If I don't go FI I may not bother though.
                      Last edited by bradnic; 09-02-2017, 05:51 PM.
                      I BUY/SELL REFURBISHED CM5907s & CM5908s

                      HOWTOs:
                      DB vert plastic bumpers
                      OEM Keys
                      MTech1 docs

                      88 ix Lach/Card
                      91 ic Calypso 3.1
                      86 Cosmo 2.7

                      OEM+ or bust!


                      reelizmpro: I will always be an e30 guy.. I still do all of my own labor
                      TrentW: There's just something so right about a well-built M20 in an E30
                      e30m3s54turbo: I save my money for tuner parts.

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                        turns out our Canadian friends have the right side indicator strip. You can still buy it new from ECS for $22, part number 62111377320, no euro cluster needed. Left strip is NLA though, so if you're obsessed enough to want rear fogs you'll need a legit euro cluster to score the overlay symbol

                        Oh and you can still buy the euro clock new for about $110, part number 62131376903
                        Last edited by bradnic; 09-02-2017, 05:46 PM.
                        I BUY/SELL REFURBISHED CM5907s & CM5908s

                        HOWTOs:
                        DB vert plastic bumpers
                        OEM Keys
                        MTech1 docs

                        88 ix Lach/Card
                        91 ic Calypso 3.1
                        86 Cosmo 2.7

                        OEM+ or bust!


                        reelizmpro: I will always be an e30 guy.. I still do all of my own labor
                        TrentW: There's just something so right about a well-built M20 in an E30
                        e30m3s54turbo: I save my money for tuner parts.

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                          Strömung angled tip exhaust delivered today!


                          Yes it looks straight in the pics. but the muffler's angled when mounted. the ends of the tips are angled vertically as well.

                          Still have the MT1 bits in the shop though, and still haven't sandblasted the painted bumpers. I'm just out of time for the Vintage. So this and the mtech1 parts will all get mounted on in June. The existing Strömung exhaust will be moved to my IX coupe, which I intend to keep as stock as possible.

                          My new convertible top boot lid arrived at my supplier today, and they confirmed it is the electric top version which is great! Not sure if I can get it painted and assembled in time for the trip though.

                          Finally all except 8 hardware bits for the electric top mechanism have arrived, including the top motor reinforcement bracket. So time to start cutting more holes in my car.
                          Last edited by bradnic; 09-02-2017, 05:45 PM.
                          I BUY/SELL REFURBISHED CM5907s & CM5908s

                          HOWTOs:
                          DB vert plastic bumpers
                          OEM Keys
                          MTech1 docs

                          88 ix Lach/Card
                          91 ic Calypso 3.1
                          86 Cosmo 2.7

                          OEM+ or bust!


                          reelizmpro: I will always be an e30 guy.. I still do all of my own labor
                          TrentW: There's just something so right about a well-built M20 in an E30
                          e30m3s54turbo: I save my money for tuner parts.

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                            Interested in seeing how the electric vs manual bootlids differ. I don't recall changing my latches when I changed to manual operation, but it seems to lock and pop open proper.
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                              With a heavy vert you want more cubic inches, nice compression, mild cam , correct Pistons and it will be a torquey beast
                              89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

                              new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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                                Originally posted by robrez View Post
                                Interested in seeing how the electric vs manual bootlids differ. I don't recall changing my latches when I changed to manual operation, but it seems to lock and pop open proper.
                                yeah the latch mechanisms are completely different, but it seems that the electric top latches can be used manually too. But the driver side electric top latch doesn't have the extra safety lock on it found on the original manual latch. So if you're the one person on the planet converting an OEM manual top to electric, and the electric latches are NLA, you're stuck with used parts.

                                I did end up finding a driver side electric top latch that I think came with the motors Barry sold me 3-4 years ago. They use the same mounting holes and fasteners, but you can see the difference in designs clearly. Not just the latches either - Bowden cables are different too. You can also see part of the safety latch - black part on the top of the pic.



                                the only other difference in the boot lids is the lever in the center for the top lid motor. I have the hole for the lever in my boot lid, but not the lever itself. no way to add it without taking the 2 pieces of the boot lid apart, and you'd still need the lever - which you can't buy lol.
                                Last edited by bradnic; 09-02-2017, 05:41 PM.
                                I BUY/SELL REFURBISHED CM5907s & CM5908s

                                HOWTOs:
                                DB vert plastic bumpers
                                OEM Keys
                                MTech1 docs

                                88 ix Lach/Card
                                91 ic Calypso 3.1
                                86 Cosmo 2.7

                                OEM+ or bust!


                                reelizmpro: I will always be an e30 guy.. I still do all of my own labor
                                TrentW: There's just something so right about a well-built M20 in an E30
                                e30m3s54turbo: I save my money for tuner parts.

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