4 police officers shot/killed in coffee shop near mchord AFB.

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  • LBJefferies
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    Originally posted by dvs909
    he hasn't killed anyone at that point. if he was arrested you couldnt kill him because the punishment didnt fit the crime. if he killed the 4, the punishment fits the crime, and killing him is justified.
    I'm talking about someone shooting him in self defense, in the couple seconds before he fired his gun, in order to prevent the killing of innocent people. This is perfectly justifiable. After the crime has been committed, and deaths can no longer be prevented, killing him only serves as punishment. Solitary confinement for life is a better punishment.

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  • dvs909
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    Originally posted by LBJefferies
    So killing him while he has a gun pointed at the officers isn't justifiable?
    he hasn't killed anyone at that point. if he was arrested you couldnt kill him because the punishment didnt fit the crime. if he killed the 4, the punishment fits the crime, and killing him is justified.

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  • dreamchasin
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    One of the officers killed in this was the lady's son i work with.

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  • Vedubin01
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    Should have figured as much.

    Maurice Clemmons aka Alfred “Issaquah” Shafford, a member of the Seattle Black Foot Soldiers, converted to Islam
    while incarcerated at the Cummins penitentiary in Arkansas.



    Gateway Pundit blog article Link

    Black Muslim Group Celebrates “Brother & Martyr” Maurice Clemmons
    Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 11:51 AM
    Jim Hoft

    “For Many Are Called But Few Are Chosen.” BOW Martyr Against White Terrorist & Racist Police Regime (Maurice Clemmons) Adorned With Virgins, Jewelry & Crowned; “When the Battle is Over, We Shall Wear a Crown.” – Seattle Black Foot Soldiers

    The Seattle Blackfoot Soldiers, an offshoot of the Nation of Islam, celebrated cop killer Maurice Clemmons.




    Fire Andrea Mitchell blog article Link

    Black Muslim Group called Seattle Black Foot Soldiers celebrates “Brother & Martyr” Maurice Clemmons – he also became a member of the Nation of Islam while in Arkansas!


    I guess I really shouldn’t be surprised should I? Gateway Pundit caught this “gem” if you can call it that of the Seattle Black Foot Soldiers group which happens to be a black muslim group based in obviously Seattle calling cop killer Maurice Clemmons “Brother & Martyr”. Thier full statement is this:

    “For Many Are Called But Few Are Chosen.” BOW Martyr Against White Terrorist & Racist Police Regime (Maurice Clemmons) Adorned With Virgins, Jewelry & Crowned; “When the Battle is Over, We Shall Wear a Crown.” – Seattle Black Foot Soldiers

    But thats not all, The so called black muslim group the Seattle Black Foot Soldiers also held a rally today outside of the Steele Street Forza Coffee House. According to The Last Crusade..

    “Who is your favorite officer down?” Seattle Black Foot Soldier Alfred “Issaquah” Shafford asked a rally to celebrate (what’s being called) “the blow against the white terrorist racism of the Washington State Police Regime."

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  • Nicademus
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    I'm surprised more cops don't get killed more often.

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  • LBJefferies
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    Originally posted by dvs909
    no. by my logic, once he is guilty, he stays guilty. if the death was justifiable when he committed the crime, its justifiable now.

    before he commits the crime death isnt justifiable.
    So killing him while he has a gun pointed at the officers isn't justifiable?

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  • iamsam
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    case closed

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  • pureaudio
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    They should have let a few more fly and hit the assholes hiding this guy. Regardless, I'm glad the officers got to finish this guy themselves, at least everyone can rest easy knowing there is no chance of him ever doing it again.

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  • Massive Lee
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    Here's a head-up. The guy got shot by the police this morning after hiding for two days. He was holding the gun that belonged to one of the cops he shot. The two persons who were hiding him for two days have been arrested too.

    Lee

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  • dvs909
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    Originally posted by LBJefferies
    By that logic he should have been killed the moment he was born.

    Also, plenty has changed. At one point there was intent to kill and at another there wasn't intent to kill. And did you completely forget about the fact that the officers that were alive at one point and are at this point they are not alive? I would call that change over time.

    no. by my logic, once he is guilty, he stays guilty. if the death was justifiable when he committed the crime, its justifiable now.

    before he commits the crime death isnt justifiable.

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  • ACMF74
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    Seattle (AP) -- Sheriff's spokesman says Seattle police
    have fatally shot suspect in officer shooting.
    Pierce County sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer says Maurice
    Clemmons was shot early Tuesday in a Seattle neighborhood.
    Authorities suspected Clemmons of gunning down four police
    officers at a coffee shop Sunday morning in Lakewood, a suburb
    about 35 miles south of Seattle.

    -0- Dec/01/2009 11:50 GMT

    :p

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  • MFreak89
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    i hope he dies from the wound but if captured he should be hanged an inexpensive way to execute some one. I myself believe in capital punishment.

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  • Dave
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    Good Job Conservative Mike Huckabee - you let this cop killer free because you thought he was "redeemed" by Christ.

    Well done.

    And O'Reilly is now trying to help you sleep better.

    Wonder how Bill O. would have been spinning it if a black Dem had pardoned this cop killer.

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  • Farbin Kaiber
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    These police whack jobs (hits) up there in WA look like some form of gang initiation...

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  • decay
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    from the university of washington crimewatch mailing list:

    University of Washington, Seattle Campus

    This morning at 7:00 a.m., a Metro bus driver reported dropping off a rider resembling the suspect in the Lakewood police shootings at University Way, N.E. and N.E. 40th St. University Police were notified and a UW Alert message was sent alerting the campus community to the possible danger. Notice was also posted to the UW web site, along with a photograph of the suspect. Seattle Police responded and began a search of the area, along with UW Police, who also began a search of campus buildings, starting in west campus. As of 11:00 a.m., there has been no further sighting of the suspect, who is reported to be suffering from a gunshot wound, is armed and very dangerous. You are urged to be alert, cautious, and aware of your surroundings as you move about campus today. If you see someone resembling the suspect, please call 911 immediately.
    sounds like one of the cops scored a hit on the guy, at least. may he bleed to death internally.

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