Who here believes in aliens?

[OdSkE30]

I'm waiting from them to show up and show the human race what childish bullshit we've been pulling on each other. I'm really for a fucking war.

Think they'll bring"futuristic" tech? Weapons? Wonder if we'd stand a chance. I'm hoping for an allied encounter. I have a feeling we will all just get along.

[joshh]

I'm waiting from them to show up and show the human race what childish bullshit we've been pulling on each other. I'm really for a fucking war.

[cale]

I know most of the people who originally posted are no longer monitoring this thread but I had to comment on one thing that drives me insane. All those who immediately equate UFO to alien, that's not what a UFO is. It is simply your observation of something of unknown origin, and is not even necessarily even an object in the sky. It seems as though people are so manipulated by hollywood or uneducated as to what exactly that object you very well may be seeing is, that they are unable to form reasonable conclusions beyond ZOMGALIEN. Very few UFO sittings hold up as a credible unknown object, they almost always have quite simple explanations.

I most definitely do believe in intelligent life elsewhere though, the factors which make earth habitable here most certainly will exist elsewhere in the universe so I have no doubt the pieces of the puzzle fell into place elsewhere too. I do not however believe that we have been fortunate enough to ever interact with or be visited by another intelligent species. We have only been making our presence be known with radio waves for less than a century, they have not covered much distance in that time so the likelihood of them being intercepted is probably quite low....and the chance of us being stumbled upon by chance is nil.

[freeride53]

[Holland]

Major interest of mine, but much too tin foil hat for most of you on here.

[OdSkE30]

There is no way we are the only ones out there. So much space! Someday it will be all just common knowledge but that hard proof has to come first. I hope they really do have huge eyes and that crazy shaped head. Please come to Earth in my lifetime. Think they have absurdly advanced technology? Think they are in our solar system? Fuck yeah aliens!!!

[gwb72tii]

i believe
i met H0lmes

[Fusion]

This thread just got abducted, analprobed, and experienced 18 month timetravel.

[Sailor37]

Theyre out there somewhere

[sergio318is]

I DEF BELIEVE n have seen some and video one vid is in my fb


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[Maluco]

I have been fkng abducted!!! I will search it and post it here later (explained in an earlier thread)

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[Hallen]

What arguments would you like me to back up? I have no desire to comment on every person's babbling in this thread. And I don't claim to know all about this subject, but I do know that I wouldn't comment unless I knew about what I was specifically saying. We could go back and forth all day with different theories but that doesn't interest me. I'd only like to discuss theories that have been accepted by the collective scientific community.

So then don't comment at all. If you don't want to take the time to make an argument, then don't bother writing anything. If it doesn't interest you, then why say something?

You just said the universe is expending and therefore it is finite. That answer leaves open huge gaps in both logic and physics. So if you don't want to defend your position, don't bother posting in the first place. This is just for fun. You aren't going to teach the entire internet to be smart, but between us, it's just a bit of fun.

And btw, I don't think the collective scientific community has much agreement at all on the size, shape, or composition of the universe. We just have a bunch of questions and several hypothesis, of which, some look to be more promising than others.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/universe/howbig.html

Notice he doesn't answer the question in that piece. He just says it's expanding at a faster rate than it used to be indicating that dark energy has gotten the upper hand somewhat recently.

[LBJefferies]

The existence of a "center of the universe" and our capability to "see" it are not mutually exclusive. Also, I don't know where you get your info, but not everything is moving away from us. The fact that you said that concerns me greatly. Do you realize what it would mean if everything was moving away from us? Think about it -- it would imply that earth, or our solar system, or the milky way was the center of the universe; which we know is not the case. I never said everything is moving away from the "center" at a constant rate. Something that is theoretically closer to the origin; or "center", may be getting farther away without being moving away from us. Get it? It's simply moving from the center at a lesser rate than "we" are.

And I actually haven't taken any astronomy courses... just a bunch of physics courses that included astrophysics. And your reference to "Western logic" is extremely out of date. There is no longer a Western model of logic, math, physics, or science -- we all function within the same paradigm nowadays, and have for a century or so now. If you need more info on how the universe is moving, you should read "A Brief History of Time" by Stephen Hawking. You will learn all about this stuff. Actually, if you were willing to pay for shipping and promised to return it, I'd be happy to loan you my copy.

Actually everything is moving away from us. Technically everything is moving away from everything else. This implies that there is no center of the universe.

[E30Kaiser]

The existence of a "center of the universe" and our capability to "see" it are not mutually exclusive. Also, I don't know where you get your info, but not everything is moving away from us. The fact that you said that concerns me greatly. Do you realize what it would mean if everything was moving away from us? Think about it -- it would imply that earth, or our solar system, or the milky way was the center of the universe; which we know is not the case. I never said everything is moving away from the "center" at a constant rate. Something that is theoretically closer to the origin; or "center", may be getting farther away without being moving away from us. Get it? It's simply moving from the center at a lesser rate than "we" are.

And I actually haven't taken any astronomy courses... just a bunch of physics courses that included astrophysics. And your reference to "Western logic" is extremely out of date. There is no longer a Western model of logic, math, physics, or science -- we all function within the same paradigm nowadays, and have for a century or so now. If you need more info on how the universe is moving, you should read "A Brief History of Time" by Stephen Hawking. You will learn all about this stuff. Actually, if you were willing to pay for shipping and promised to return it, I'd be happy to loan you my copy.

When I say that you fall prey to "Western Logic" it is because you fail to understand that everything can be moving away from our cluster, but we are not the center of the Universe. Why do you think every galaxy beyond our supercluster is redshifted? Not to mention if you look in any direction you see galaxys are uniformly distributed relatively. Why is that? Wouldn't you expect them to be much more dense in one direction and much less dense in the other if you had a ripple model?

BTW I am not saying that you are wrong, like I said before, Astronomy is the field probably most made up of theories so almost every debate over it is based loosely on facts and mostly on whatever you think is the most probable answer.