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[CorvallisBMW]

Awesome. So now the unions and corporations have free speech, but I don't. That's totally what the 1st amendment is about.

The rules that were struck down prevented huge special interests from giving boatloads of money and drowning out the 'free speech' of you and me. But now that they're free to give as much as they want to whomever they want, the average American citizen has no voice. I could sell everything I own and donate every penny in my account to my favorite candidate, and some big Fortune 500 company could donate 0.000001% of their earnings to the other guy, and my 'free speech' wouldn't count for shit. I'd be outspent a million to one, and guess who's voice would be a million times louder.

What is good about taking away free speech from the American citizens and giving it to the American Unions and Corporations? What about MY right to free speech? Money talks. If they give $100 Million, and I give $100, my free speech is muzzled. Taken away. Stricken. Where is the First Amendment for me and you? Do we get to have our say?

Free speech is a right that everyone is guaranteed, not just those with money. I'd love to see a $1000 cap for everyone; private, public, corporate, union or whatever. That way everyone has their right to free speech and can give to whomever they want, but no one gets more free speech than anyone else.

[LBJefferies]

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Holy shit took the words right outta my next post



Ok I am done with you kiddies.


Someday maybe you will understand.

People making money is not evil, no are corps, they are just better at it.

But according to you the government is evil? When are you going to realize that they are the same fucking thing?! They have the same level of power and influence over your life as the government. The only difference is that you aren't allowed to vote for the leaders. Yay democracy!

[mrsleeve]

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Holy shit took the words right outta my next post



Ok I am done with you kiddies.


Someday maybe you will understand.

People making money is not evil, no are corps, they are just better at it.

[stegosaurus]

The fact that you think this is a free speech issue just shows that you have been drinking the Beck/Limbaugh Kool Aid.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe corporations shouldn't be granted the same rights as living breathing human beings?

Corporations are taxed like living breathing human beings, moreso as a matter of fact. So, why shouldn't they be allowed to spend their money the way they want?

Puerto Ricans can spend their money however they want to and they don't even have to pay taxes.

[LBJefferies]

No you are correct on this. But This is how I know you know nothing of How or WHY this country was founded, and intended to be.

We are currently a long way from those intentions, but this is a step back toward the founding fathers Ideals.

This country wasn't founded with the intention of granting corporate America power over the government and the lives of citizens.

When are you going to wake up and realize that the corporate interests in this country has just as much or more influence over your life as the government. Corporate America is dangerous. This has nothing to do with free speech.

[mar1t1me]

WTF, You fucking morons dont get it do you.

ITS FREE SPEECH PERIOD.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

This was designed to protect the rights of individual citizens, not to enhance the voice of for-profit corporations and other business interests!

WE THE PEOPLE. Bank of America is NOT a person. Exxon is NOT a person. Merck is NOT a person. They are business interests who should not have a larger voice than an individual citizen. And Unions? Now, the very unions that conservatives feel already have too much power can buy even more!

This is a distortion of the constitutional ideal of government BY the people, FOR the people. The First Amendment was never intended to give more political power to large corporations.

[mrsleeve]

No you are correct on this. But This is how I know you know nothing of How or WHY this country was founded, and intended to be.

We are currently a long way from those intentions, but this is a step back toward the founding fathers Ideals.

Must this turn into another dick measuring contest? Just becasue LB's views are different than yours dosent mean they are wrong.

[ALYKZANDYR]

Must this turn into another dick measuring contest? Just becasue LB's views are different than yours dosent mean they are wrong.

[LBJefferies]

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Why The FUCK shouldn't they. Yes regulation is one thing with in the bounds of the Constitution. If a company wants to donate to someone that holds their interests in high regard then so be it. The voters pick NOT THE Corporations

Oh I dunno, maybe because corporations don't have lungs, eyeballs, a heart, a brain, a cock, or a fucking conscience.

[ALYKZANDYR]

As soon as i saw this on the news, I knew for a fact that if i checked R3v,that this thread would be here, and it was. The country really stepped on its collective dick with this one.

[mrsleeve]

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Why The FUCK shouldn't they. Yes regulation is one thing with in the bounds of the Constitution. If a company wants to donate to someone that holds their interests in high regard then so be it. The voters pick NOT THE Corporations



yes fuck off your views are counter productive and conflict with those that this country is based on. You need to learn that what you want leads no where good.

Its your right to hold them, and your right to voice them, but its not our fault you fail to understand simple things.


Oh I suggest you watch Beck tomorrow, hes doing some thing good on your hero's. Yeah it will a be a bit scare tactic like but the history you learn might just shake something lose in your brain. Or are you scared of the opposing view point

So everybody else is allowed to spew right wing bullshit but because I offer an alternative to the majority opinion I am silenced and told to fuck off?

If you don't like what I post then you can block me and ignore my threads.

[LBJefferies]

WTF, You fucking morons dont get it do you.

ITS FREE SPEECH PERIOD.

Your all important MSNBC and all the rest of the Liberal Media and corporate Blogs out there that you fuckers feed on like a pig at the trough. Those Corps have the rights to free speech right, as much as you want to shut fox, rush and the rest down you cant thanks to the 1st.

Well they are people and corps too, so why should one set of rules regarding free speech apply to one group of corps but not another?????

The fact that you think this is a free speech issue just shows that you have been drinking the Beck/Limbaugh Kool Aid.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe corporations shouldn't be granted the same rights as living breathing human beings?

[LBJefferies]

We just want you to fuck off, but we'll settle for shutting up.

So everybody else is allowed to spew right wing bullshit but because I offer an alternative to the majority opinion I am silenced and told to fuck off?

If you don't like what I post then you can block me and ignore my threads.

[mrsleeve]

WTF, You fucking morons dont get it do you.

ITS FREE SPEECH PERIOD.

Your all important MSNBC and all the rest of the Liberal Media and corporate Blogs out there that you fuckers feed on like a pig at the trough. Those Corps have the rights to free speech right, as much as you want to shut fox, rush and the rest down you cant thanks to the 1st.

Well they are people and corps too, so why should one set of rules regarding free speech apply to one group of corps but not another?????

[Ray Smoodiver]

Given the helmets they are wearing, that sounds about right.

"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini

We just want you to fuck off, but we'll settle for shutting up.