T-Mobile Verizon or ?

[rwh11385]

You can do the same thing with CDMA phones when it comes to swapping, just carry a spare and do a quick ESN change over the phone, I've done it in less then a minute before (assuming you call straight into provisioning)

Does your former phone need to be functional?

1. I guess if you're always switching phones, which most people don't do.
5. Never needed to be on the internet and talk to someone at the same time.

And all the others relate to being overseas.


So, basically CDMA/GSM, doesn't matter for 99.9% of the population

I guess if you never leave the US, never text back a friend while on the phone with your girl, never bought an unlocked phone people don't get here, and never had the comfort of using a SIM card, then I guess you wouldn't see the benefit, no.

[Ryan Stewart]

If youre wanting to save some money Sprint referral plans are great but their phone selection is slim. Both the girlfriend and I are on a shared unlimited plan with two Evos for $141 a month after taxes and such.

word. CDMA blows.

People are soon going to realize how slow Verizon's network is after the iPhones are released. Pre-orders broke the sales record in two hours this morning.

Even ATT's 3G bandwidth is higher than Verizon's LTE.

Data use with the glut of android users on VZWs network is damn near what the iphoners have been using because there are a shit ton of them and they actually use more data per phone.

And the way CDMA is setup the data wont impact the calling network and its easier to roll up, if needed and is vastly superior to GSM in changing towers, its far less likely to drop a call because of it.

[z31maniac]

1. I guess if you're always switching phones, which most people don't do.
5. Never needed to be on the internet and talk to someone at the same time.

And all the others relate to being overseas.


So, basically CDMA/GSM, doesn't matter for 99.9% of the population

[James Crivellone]

1. Not being able to swap SIMs (this is a huge thing for me)
2. Not being able to use prepaid providers overseas
3. Only really good coverage in US and few other countries, GSM standard in Europe and a 4 band GSM will let you call mostly anywhere you'd ever want to go.
4. Europe / Japan usually have more cutting edge phone tech since US is mostly carrier driven versus elsewhere where phones companies compete more directly since some unlocking is common place and contracts aren't as big (prepaid) - and these cool phones won't work on CDMA
5. Having to choose between data and voice

you could always just pick up a cheap GSM phone for abroad, but I like being able to just pick up and go. plus my friend was MIA to the world because he spilled coffee on his phone and had to wait to change shit over. PITA. I got my tent soaked camping and just needed to remove battery and switch to one of my multiple phones lying around. A trip turned bad and didn't have a charger and needed to get hotel info from co-worker and with CDMA would have been screwed but with GSM just swapped to another phone and good to go. GSM gives you a whole lot more freedom as the user

You can do the same thing with CDMA phones when it comes to swapping, just carry a spare and do a quick ESN change over the phone, I've done it in less then a minute before (assuming you call straight into provisioning)

LTE will finally solve the data/voice at the same time issue, but to be honest when I had it with AT&T I never really cared, although that was probably because I had my phone locked to Edge so I could take a call that lasted more then 120 seconds

Everything else can be solved (as you said) by a cheap GSM phone

[rwh11385]

Why does CDMA blow?

1. Not being able to swap SIMs (this is a huge thing for me)
2. Not being able to use prepaid providers overseas
3. Only really good coverage in US and few other countries, GSM standard in Europe and a 4 band GSM will let you call mostly anywhere you'd ever want to go.
4. Europe / Japan usually have more cutting edge phone tech since US is mostly carrier driven versus elsewhere where phones companies compete more directly since some unlocking is common place and contracts aren't as big (prepaid) - and these cool phones won't work on CDMA
5. Having to choose between data and voice

you could always just pick up a cheap GSM phone for abroad, but I like being able to just pick up and go. plus my friend was MIA to the world because he spilled coffee on his phone and had to wait to change shit over. PITA. I got my tent soaked camping and just needed to remove battery and switch to one of my multiple phones lying around. A trip turned bad and didn't have a charger and needed to get hotel info from co-worker and with CDMA would have been screwed but with GSM just swapped to another phone and good to go. GSM gives you a whole lot more freedom as the user

[StereoInstaller1]

word. CDMA blows.

CDMA > EVERTHING else for voice calls.

GSM = Garbled Shitty Message

[z31maniac]

Yeah, the battery life on my EVO 4g is pretty weak, if you're actually using it.

But that is also down to people needing to have a "slim" device to brag about it's slimness. If people would buy phones that are just a touch heavier and thicker, the phone manufacturers could put a proper battery in the damn things.

[James Crivellone]

Yea but what about the iPhones battery life on cdma?

Anyone with an iphone can attest that the battery life sucks already.

Anyone with Verizon (any cdma carrier for that matter) can attest that their battery life sucks too.

Extended battery on my DroidX is excellent... Hell my IPhone 3GS on AT&T sucked without a battery pack on it

[Ramgoat]

Yea but what about the iPhones battery life on cdma?

Anyone with an iphone can attest that the battery life sucks already.

Anyone with Verizon (any cdma carrier for that matter) can attest that their battery life sucks too.

[James Crivellone]

I guess "blow" was a harsh term haha. I meant GSM>CDMA. I like the SIM and being able to talk & text/web at the same time. I do it more often than I thought. Apparently this is being "fixed" on CDMA right now.

AT&T isn't the best provider, but I'd pick them over T-Mobile.

I'm curious to see what the massive influx of iPhones does to Verizon's network.

4G/LTE/whateverthehelltheycallitnow will solve that dual connection issue. Although you can still call and text at the same time.

whenever I travel out of the country I just use a crappy unlocked GSM phone i have lying around.. seems to work

[KenC]

Why does CDMA blow?

I guess "blow" was a harsh term haha. I meant GSM>CDMA. I like the SIM and being able to talk & text/web at the same time. I do it more often than I thought. Apparently this is being "fixed" on CDMA right now.

AT&T isn't the best provider, but I'd pick them over T-Mobile.

I'm curious to see what the massive influx of iPhones does to Verizon's network.

[z31maniac]

word. CDMA blows.

Why does CDMA blow?

[James Crivellone]

Slow day in hell when I pay AT&T another dime.

Verizon, may be a tad slower in data, but it works all the time, EVERY time

[KenC]

I've had AT&T Wireless/Cingular/AT&T as long as I can remember and has served me fine. Plus, even on the most basic 3G phone you can text, use data, and talk at the same time.

All I know is I will NEVER use a non-GSM phone. I've had a camping trip go bad, batteries die on crazy days, or phones just plain stop working and would hate to have to go into a store to change over my phone's registration if I had a spare lying around. Or trapped in another state - give me a burner phone and problem solved. Plus, world traveling and swapping to local sim is much too awesome with GSM phones.

word. CDMA blows.

People are soon going to realize how slow Verizon's network is after the iPhones are released. Pre-orders broke the sales record in two hours this morning.

Even ATT's 3G bandwidth is higher than Verizon's LTE.

[danny4nasty]

I'm going with t-mobile at the end of this month, I've been with Atnt for about 10 years now got kicked off my family plan. I've been using their unlimited talk and text prepaid plan for 60 a month with my unlocked iphone.

But the thing is they have outrageous data plans on the prepaid service 20 bucks for only 100 megs.

T-mobile offers the same prepaid plan including unlimited data for 80 a month.

I like not having a contract but not having internet on the iphone is like a tv with no cable.