godtube.com trainwreck!

[JGood]

Conservative

America

Rocks

You know what? Fuck you. Get the fuck off this message board. I hope you trip on a piece of undeveloped roadway and smash your head into a blunt object.

[Kruzen]

Maybe you guys should look beyond your own noses before sounding like lost lambs ready for slaughter.

Maybe you should look in an english book before posting on message boards.

[JGood]

Maybe you guys should look beyond your own noses before sounding like lost lambs ready for slaughter.

Yet again, we receive a useless compilation of words.

What are you attempting to say? I fully understand a language barrier may be in place, but to attack us because we have no idea what the hell you are saying is nuts.

Slow down, and put together a sentence that is understandable.

[Kruzen]

What are you?

I'm honestly stunned.

Yeah i'm sitting here a bit astonished myself.

[Maluco]

It's only obvious it's someone that was already here but decided to create another user in order to..... Might be the same person that created another user to bash StereoInstaller.

I wonder if the mods have a way of verifying that via the IP Address....

[JGood]

What are you?

I'm honestly stunned.

[Kruzen]

Well to answer everyone questions (hopefully).....

I stopped going to church because I could not bring myself to believe in a God. I mean this: I think believing in Santa, and believing in God as described in the Bible and known in the Christian religion are on the same levels. The stories and theories are outrageous to me, and my brain will never be able to believe them. I thought this all along while going to church, but when I got old enough to comprehend the corruption, "fake" people, the way people use religion as a crutch, etc... I no longer wanted to be associated with it.

I am fully 100% unsure of how the world was created, as is everyone else. I do not care, unlike most. Yeah, I'll question it from time to time, but you won't see me devoting my life to how it was created as religious folks will do. I don't care because due to the church system, I will never be able to have a believe in a religion, and with no religion it doesn't matter how the earth was created to me.

Trust me, I put in the effort. I grew up under the idea religion was fact, I went to church, I prayed. I looked at people who didn't go to church as "weird". I always thought something was wrong. Well, something was wrong. I didn't believe it. I realized this when I was old enough to make my own choices.

I can understand your disbelief and struggle to find believability in Christian content. Personally I see it a different way. I'm privy to alot of in-depth scientific information due to the position my dad is in through work and jobs he has held in life, that in addition to other research and researchers I find that there is overwhelming evidence which supports christianity, especially when it comes down to bio-chemistry and neurology. Furthermore, there is alot of evidence supporting biblical events and timelines based on astrophysics and the general design of the universe as it sits. Once again, there's far too much compelling evidence once you dig deep for me to not believe in a divine creator.

Unfortunately it comes down to the same arguments as before, no matter what case is made, a counter-case will always be made. just like people argue if .999 = 1 or not all damn day.

[JGood]

I love church but hate God :hitler:

Your fucking weird.

[JGood]

Well to answer everyone questions (hopefully).....

I stopped going to church because I could not bring myself to believe in a God. I mean this: I think believing in Santa, and believing in God as described in the Bible and known in the Christian religion are on the same levels. The stories and theories are outrageous to me, and my brain will never be able to believe them. I thought this all along while going to church, but when I got old enough to comprehend the corruption, "fake" people, the way people use religion as a crutch, etc... I no longer wanted to be associated with it.

I am fully 100% unsure of how the world was created, as is everyone else. I do not care, unlike most. Yeah, I'll question it from time to time, but you won't see me devoting my life to how it was created as religious folks will do. I don't care because due to the church system, I will never be able to have a believe in a religion, and with no religion it doesn't matter how the earth was created to me.

Trust me, I put in the effort. I grew up under the idea religion was fact, I went to church, I prayed. I looked at people who didn't go to church as "weird". I always thought something was wrong. Well, something was wrong. I didn't believe it. I realized this when I was old enough to make my own choices.

[Kruzen]

Much better. I completely agree. However, one side should not cave and admit fault, as neither side will be proven correct. However, something should be done about the corruption in the church system so it doesn't hinder society any longer, as it's dragging everyone down.

Corruption of the church has always been a problem, because ultimately humans are corrupt. Issues with church corruption goes all the way back to dealing with the pharisees ~2100 years ago.

I don't see that changing anytime soon, and there's a growing number of 'Christians' who love God but hate the church, which is a shame. It should be a good thing and a place for Christian Fellowship but there are alot of problems that I have with the church as well.

Believe NOTHING you HEAR

and

HALF of what you SEE.




I hear God this God that but have I seen a God?

NO

What does a God look like incase I am to see one?


I do like the idea of living forever cradled in the love of an old man dont get me wrong no gay love about it yep stroke my hair.

man, you're off to a pretty bad start as a poster here. from the gaytube.com comment to not making any coherent sense in your posts, you should probably lurk for awhile before you get yourself banned or something.

[schmidty]

But you can argue FOR religion? So if I don't believe, I have to shut up, but if I do believe, all is good?

That response seriously pissed me off. It was stupid and thoughtless.

Maluco- I appreciate that response, and feel the same, I do not look down on you for believing what you believe, that would be ridiculous. I am simply against the church system as I believe it is harming our society today.

Im not trying to knit pick or anything, but just get a better understanding of what your beliefs are.
You said you used to go to church but stopped because it was 'highway robbery'... did you ever believe in God? If so, what changed your mind? Was it the 'church system' itself or something more?
While I don't agree that the church system is harmful I do think that people (Christian and non) can corrupt religion and give the church a bad name.

[Maluco]

But you can argue FOR religion? So if I don't believe, I have to shut up, but if I do believe, all is good?

That response seriously pissed me off. It was stupid and thoughtless.

Maluco- I appreciate that response, and feel the same, I do not look down on you for believing what you believe, that would be ridiculous. I am simply against the church system as I believe it is harming our society today.

You aren't the only one, I too see ALOT wrong with the church system today, as does a whole lot of believers in many different faiths. That is a solid fact and a whole other discussion. I believe it is extremely important and essential to develop a personal relationship with God. Congregating with those in the same faith, going through the same things is something all humans pretty much enjoy in all aspects of life. However in order to do that, we sometimes have to put certain things aside, accept certain differences, not participate altogether, etc....

[JGood]

My point is there's no arguing to be had, in either direction. If a Christian like myself argues for the religion, based on biblical knowledge and future timelines, we argue outside of a realm of understanding that a non-Christian has. I can say 'hay hay end times!' or 'hay hay in the bible it says!' and you can say 'I dont believe in the bible so your argument is null and void.' Likewise, you can say 'Well XYZ never happened' when I say 'well yes it did and there for ABC'. Its an impasse and neither side will ever be 'right' until one side humbles themselves and admits fault.



Sorry if my point didn't come across as clearly as intended.

Much better. I completely agree. However, one side should not cave and admit fault, as neither side will be proven correct. However, something should be done about the corruption in the church system so it doesn't hinder society any longer, as it's dragging everyone down.

[Kruzen]

But you can argue FOR religion? So if I don't believe, I have to shut up, but if I do believe, all is good?

That response seriously pissed me off. It was stupid and thoughtless.

Maluco- I appreciate that response, and feel the same, I do not look down on you for believing what you believe, that would be ridiculous. I am simply against the church system as I believe it is harming our society today.

My point is there's no arguing to be had, in either direction. If a Christian like myself argues for the religion, based on biblical knowledge and future timelines, we argue outside of a realm of understanding that a non-Christian has. I can say 'hay hay end times!' or 'hay hay in the bible it says!' and you can say 'I dont believe in the bible so your argument is null and void.' Likewise, you can say 'Well XYZ never happened' when I say 'well yes it did and there for ABC'. Its an impasse and neither side will ever be 'right' until one side humbles themselves and admits fault.

This is why in the process of evangalism many times a Christian will 'dust his sandals off and go home' when trying to share Jesus with people, because ultimately God is the only one who can change the hardened hearts of man. We can 'plant the seed' but ultimately we're just messengers.

Sorry if my point didn't come across as clearly as intended.

[JGood]

You can't really factually argue against a faith based religion. It just isn't possible, its neverending he-says she-says. We can rant and rave about biblical accuracy and miracles seen in person and the bullshit meter will come out from those opposing the religion. Ultimately it comes down to accepting it and having faith yourself or shutting up.

But you can argue FOR religion? So if I don't believe, I have to shut up, but if I do believe, all is good?

That response seriously pissed me off. It was stupid and thoughtless.

Maluco- I appreciate that response, and feel the same, I do not look down on you for believing what you believe, that would be ridiculous. I am simply against the church system as I believe it is harming our society today.