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[Turf1600]

I'm an asshole because I maintain that having a degree nets me better job security and better benefits? Find a statistic to prove me wrong and I will gladly suck your balls.

Find a statistic that proves something as subjective as "better"? Yeah that's going to happen. That was never my point anyways.....I'm saying YOU in particular seem to have the idea that you will work for someone else your entire life.

EDIT: Not that it's a bad thing - just not in the bag for me.

How is it that you guys still fail to see what I'm saying?

A degree is not required to be successful. Work ethic and motivation are key. Does anyone disagree?

YES a degree makes it easier to get a good job - as well as it is required to even be considered for some jobs. You guys are acting like I'm an advocate for dropping out - I'm not. I'm working on my degree as we speak. This is not a black and white situation though. There are people with degrees who are utter failures - and people without even a diploma who are an incredible success. That was the only thing that I ever pointed out - yet you still continue to argue that everyone with a degree is going to be massively successful and all the rest will work with their hands their entire life and retire to medicare and medicaid. Holy fuck. It has been incredibly frustrating trying to reason with you guys.

[CorvallisBMW]

Why can't you guys read? I said "you assholes" - as in the people posting in this thread talking about great benefits and job security. How the hell does that equate to everyone with a degree?

I'm an asshole because I maintain that having a degree nets me better job security and better benefits? Find a statistic to prove me wrong and I will gladly suck your balls.

[Turf1600]

So getting a degree means that you lose ambition and slave away for your employer for the rest of your life? Sounds more synonymous with a blue-collar trade position. Plenty of people with degrees will go on to start their own businesses or corporations or whatever.

Why can't you guys read? I said "you assholes" - as in the people posting in this thread talking about great benefits and job security. How the hell does that equate to everyone with a degree?

[mudflaps]

CT is the last place on the planet I really want to move to anyway. I think you are safe, but thanks for the concern.

[whiltebeitel]

:wgaf:

If you get in with Sikorsky and United Technologies, please don't move to Connecticut. We already have enough idiots.

BURN!

Good luck on your job search. It's not like the thread is full of win, anyway.

[BenM]

just submitted my resumes to lockheed, raytheon, and united technologies.

economics/finance major ftw.

If you get in with Sikorsky and United Technologies, please don't move to Connecticut. We already have enough idiots.

[TwoJ's]

just submitted my resumes to lockheed, raytheon, and united technologies.

economics/finance major ftw.

:wgaf:

[mudflaps]

just submitted my resumes to lockheed, raytheon, and united technologies.

economics/finance major ftw.

[trashcop 80s 80s]

You assholes also have it hammered into your mind that you have to work for someone your entire life......you guys are dead set on the beaten path to mediocrity.

So getting a degree means that you lose ambition and slave away for your employer for the rest of your life? Sounds more synonymous with a blue-collar trade position. Plenty of people with degrees will go on to start their own businesses or corporations or whatever.

[gstuning]

It all comes down to the person,

a dingus with a degree WILL not make it in the "field".
Attending college and getting a degree is just that. Attending doing the minimum work to get the degree.

Now somebody else uses the college education to become whatever they can with the degree or education they have taken,.

Same goes for somebody out in the working field. It´s only down to the person itself what will happen in the future.

That said.
There are LOADS of jobs that you can´t get without the proper degree and some require VERY high marks as well.

Aircraft engineer/designer in the public sector.
Medical doctors, surgeons and so on,
Lawyers. Judges and the lot.
Almost all higher positions withing financial structures, banks, loan offices and so on.
And SO many more and it´s getting harder and harder. A degree isn´t enough these days. One must show that one already has the ability and experience the employee seeks.

To get the good jobs you must excel, and higher education is simply the shortest time to become educated enough to do so.

[Turf1600]

thats just it... who says you've made something of yourself once you earn a degree? yay! i got a degree! yay! i'm the fucking man now! yay!

you only are what you make of yourself.

yeah, you may be one up from those who never plan on getting a degree. and yeah, thats a lot of people in this world. good for you, seriously. but you've got this atitude that makes me think you are only going to be a worker be in this world. no thanks, that shit is for the birds.

x2.

[325Projectz]

Really? Why is that? because we got an education and made something of ourselves? does that mean we deserve a refund?

No, what I am saying is that that 'piece of paper' is more than that, it's 5 years (in the case of engineering) of knowledge, experience and training that gets me the better jobs and better pay over someone who just came out of HS and spent 5 years working a basic job. At my last internship I worked above several hundred shop floor workers, many who had been there for over 30 years. I made more than them because I took the time to get an education. Is it fair that I was paid more? maybe not. In fact, i would argue that after 30 years they deserved to be paid more than some kid out on his first internship. But hey, to psloan who said 'I've got people working under me and I'm 20-something', BFD. So does anyone with a degree.

He never said he wanted to be any of those things, he said that 'there is not a single thing that you cannot do without a degree that you can do with one'. I proved him wrong.

thats just it... who says you've made something of yourself once you earn a degree? yay! i got a degree! yay! i'm the fucking man now! yay!

you only are what you make of yourself.

yeah, you may be one up from those who never plan on getting a degree. and yeah, thats a lot of people in this world. good for you, seriously. but you've got this atitude that makes me think you are only going to be a worker bee in this world. no thanks, that shit is for the birds.

[equate975]

NICE

Just took my alignment performance test, 100% bitches

Thats 6 for 6, all 100%

[Turf1600]

Really? Why is that? because we got an education and made something of ourselves? does that mean we deserve a refund?

No, what I am saying is that that 'piece of paper' is more than that, it's 5 years (in the case of engineering) of knowledge, experience and training that gets me the better jobs and better pay over someone who just came out of HS and spent 5 years working a basic job. At my last internship I worked above several hundred shop floor workers, many who had been there for over 30 years. I made more than them because I took the time to get an education. Is it fair that I was paid more? maybe not. In fact, i would argue that after 30 years they deserved to be paid more than some kid out on his first internship. But hey, to psloan who said 'I've got people working under me and I'm 20-something', BFD. So does anyone with a degree.

He never said he wanted to be any of those things, he said that 'there is not a single thing that you cannot do without a degree that you can do with one'. I proved him wrong.

When the fuck did I say there's not a single thing? I said there are equally as many paths to wealth. Don't twist my words to make your point look valid. You haven't proved me wrong on anything at all - you've enjoyed reading everything you have typed.

[CorvallisBMW]

:rofl:

most of the people in this thread should go back to their school and ask for a refund.

oh really? are you saying without that peice of paper you're an idiot? can't make it in life? only with that peice of paper can you pursue your dreams?

who said he wants to end up as a doctor, lawyer, engineer or dentist? maybe he doesn't need a degree for his plans. but he's getting a degree anyway to better himself.

Really? Why is that? because we got an education and made something of ourselves? does that mean we deserve a refund?

No, what I am saying is that that 'piece of paper' is more than that, it's 5 years (in the case of engineering) of knowledge, experience and training that gets me the better jobs and better pay over someone who just came out of HS and spent 5 years working a basic job. At my last internship I worked above several hundred shop floor workers, many who had been there for over 30 years. I made more than them because I took the time to get an education. Is it fair that I was paid more? maybe not. In fact, i would argue that after 30 years they deserved to be paid more than some kid out on his first internship. But hey, to psloan who said 'I've got people working under me and I'm 20-something', BFD. So does anyone with a degree.

He never said he wanted to be any of those things, he said that 'there is not a single thing that you cannot do without a degree that you can do with one'. I proved him wrong.