Bagged e30 touring FTL

[blunttech]

dude dont get all defensive, just this morning over coffee i was lamenting on how i wasnt truley happy with the handling of my e30. so after pondering what i might upgrade to to achieve the "on rails" type performance i crave the 1/2 ton chevy pick up popped into my mind.

I wasnt knocking your car, just stating that I would prefer a bagged touring over a stock looking divingboard car anyday.

and Blunt- please. tell me please how you think a stock e30 with a 18year old stock suspension and 14" ballon all season tires (the average e30 on this forum) is going to outhandle an airride suspension on a truck with all new bushings/ shocks that are designed for the lowering and 275/35/20" tires on 9" wide rims. Heck, my truck really doesnt even weigh THAT much (4.3/shortbed/singlecab).
I really dont talk out of my ass here. I have lived here in germany, owned about 20+ e30s, and drive my truck daily here. I know how it can handle the twisties vs. some of the crapbox cars I havce had-- now my truck vs. a properly set-up suspension in an e30(i am guessing yours)- i know there is no chance(but as I stated- it could outhandle a whole lot of e30s on this forum- including my eta, but not all. plus the e30 suspension really isnt that great anyway. poorly designed strut suspension on the front, with a non adj. rear trailing arm design is not really anything to be that proud of anyway.

I am not trying to knock e30's or start crap_ i like my M3 100000000000000times more than my truck, just trying to bring a point across that air, or hydraulics doesnt always = crappy ride/handling

[mikeedler]

I wasnt knocking your car, just stating that I would prefer a bagged touring over a stock looking divingboard car anyday.

and Blunt- please. tell me please how you think a stock e30 with a 18year old stock suspension and 14" ballon all season tires (the average e30 on this forum) is going to outhandle an airride suspension on a truck with all new bushings/ shocks that are designed for the lowering and 275/35/20" tires on 9" wide rims. Heck, my truck really doesnt even weigh THAT much (4.3/shortbed/singlecab).
I really dont talk out of my ass here. I have lived here in germany, owned about 20+ e30s, and drive my truck daily here. I know how it can handle the twisties vs. some of the crapbox cars I havce had-- now my truck vs. a properly set-up suspension in an e30(i am guessing yours)- i know there is no chance(but as I stated- it could outhandle a whole lot of e30s on this forum- including my eta, but not all. plus the e30 suspension really isnt that great anyway. poorly designed strut suspension on the front, with a non adj. rear trailing arm design is not really anything to be that proud of anyway.

I am not trying to knock e30's or start crap_ i like my M3 100000000000000times more than my truck, just trying to bring a point across that air, or hydraulics doesnt always = crappy ride/handling

[Ray Smoodiver]

Before I opened the thread, I KNEW it would be a car from New Zealand. However, I thought it would be black, not white. So that makes two bagged E30 wagons in a town of 1 million. They are both are within 10 miles of my house.

[stevofthahill]

Do you know why? Funding?

From what I understand, Praxxis was a side project of Bridgestone tires but they had a contract with Tire Rack to be the only dealer. It just wasn't a widely known about system, because other than my friend Todd with the e46, I've never seen another kit. I guess it never really got off the ground like it should have do to poor advertising and promotion.

[aaron325ix]

I think that might be sweet for an iX, to adjust the ride height for street, heavy snow etc. That car is ugly though.

[george graves]

The rims made me gag.

[Farbin Kaiber]

Do you know why? Funding?

[stevofthahill]

Have you guys seen the Praxxis setup on a wrx?

http://www.turbomagazine.com/tech/0311tur_praxis_subaru_wrx_suspension/index.html

Air can be handy...

Nope, but a good friend of mine had it on his supercharged e46 330i. That thing handled amazing too, and it was awesome to switch from touring, street, to track settings in seconds. Just for shits and giggles at a few car shows we would let the air out completely and dump the car to the floor. It's just to bad they went out of business.

[Farbin Kaiber]

Have you guys seen the Praxxis setup on a wrx?

http://www.turbomagazine.com/tech/0311tur_praxis_subaru_wrx_suspension/index.html

Air can be handy...

[stevofthahill]

Like the general consensus has said, lose the wheels and tails and I'd rock the shit out of that touring.

[cramer]

Cars can actually handle pretty well with an air ride setup, granted this article is mostly old american muscle with crappy setup to begin with, but it gives you an idea on what they are doing:

http://www.ridetech.com/more/street-challenge-archive/

I'd drive a bagged touring :)

[JGood]

your fooling yourself if you think the handling is bad with bags.

Nobody said the handling is bad, just that it's not as good as race springs on an e30. You can't tell me a set of airbags will provide better suspension control then a set of race springs/shocks.

And it's just my opinion of the car. I love minitrucks and bags, several of my friends have them, and I went to Trucks at Carlisle every year. I don't like those wheels or the tail lights on this car, which are the only 2 mods. The rest is stock, so you can't really NOT like the rest (or maybe you can, as you don't like a bone stock diving board e30)

[blunttech]

"My C1500 is bagged, and I would bet it could outhandle a whole lot of e30s on this forum."

hahaha thats fucking funny

[rodrigo]

it looks like an Accord wagon...

(at least the ones out here...)

[mikeedler]

your fooling yourself if you think the handling is bad with bags. My C1500 is bagged, and I would bet it could outhandle a whole lot of e30s on this forum. like any suspension, if done right, it can work great.

now about that car, I dont care for the taillights, but the rest is alright.
everyone has their own opinions, and I would rather drive that touring than the red diving board car in your sig anyday.
There is someone on this forum ( HartgeH26) i think is his name, had a bagged touring here in germany.