What is your take on Phillip Berg?

[Vedubin01]

Believe that if you want. While American law arose from Common Law in the UK, it is indeed different in many, many ways.

Keep that tin foil hat on while you are at it to keep yourself safe from the radiation Obama will be using for mind control.

Sure Ill remember that....... thanks for the heads up!

one more see bottom of page on long and short form.

What is a long form birth certificate?

The long form is a certified copy of the original birth certificate in its entirety. This is preferred by the Department of State's Bureau of Consular Affairs, Office of Passport Services/Customer Service and by the courts.


What is a short form birth certificate?

The short form computerized birth certificate consists of a wallet size birth card and a 5x8 birth document containing abbreviated information.
The information are as follows:

* Child's Name
* Child's Sex
* Parent's Name(s)
* Date of Birth
* Certificate Number
* File Number

[Dave]

Believe that if you want. While American law arose from Common Law in the UK, it is indeed different in many, many ways.

Keep that tin foil hat on while you are at it to keep yourself safe from the radiation Obama will be using for mind control.

[Vedubin01]

Hey genius - look at the url ". . . .org.uk" Click your own link and scroll up "Family - In England" is the title on the page.



When I go here: http://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/health/pages/-5138-/

And request a copy of my Birth Certificate - I get a document that says "Certificate of Live Birth".

Thats cool, Im trying to do many things and answer you at the same time. A lot of our laws are kind of the same being that American Law was written a lot like the UKs. Berg is looking for the original birth certificate not a repro. Ill dig for the correct link for the 2 different birth certificates. Or if you want, call the passport office and ask them about the difference.

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Whereas the long form is a copy of the actual birth certificate, a short form is a document that certifies the existence of such certificate

[Dave]

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp

SUCK IT.

[Money$hit]

Why?

Because regardless of all the crack smoking, duis, divorces, etc... At least we know all these people are American born.

Obama, not so much.

[Dave]

Types of birth certificates

There are two types of birth certificates:-

• the full certificate. This is a copy of the entry in the birth register, giving all the recorded details
• the short certificate. This only gives the child’s full name, sex, date and place of birth. It does not give the name and particulars of the mother or father. A short certificate is issued free of charge when a birth is first registered and is sufficient for most official purposes.

http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/index/...h_certificates

He has produced the short form not the long form. The long form is needed to obtained a passport.

Hey genius - look at the url ". . . .org.uk" Click your own link and scroll up "Family - In England" is the title on the page.



When I go here: http://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/health/pages/-5138-/

And request a copy of my Birth Certificate - I get a document that says "Certificate of Live Birth".

[Vedubin01]

Don't be an idiot.

There is no other document.

Types of birth certificates

There are two types of birth certificates:-

• the full certificate. This is a copy of the entry in the birth register, giving all the recorded details
• the short certificate. This only gives the child’s full name, sex, date and place of birth. It does not give the name and particulars of the mother or father. A short certificate is issued free of charge when a birth is first registered and is sufficient for most official purposes.

http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/index/family_parent/family/birth_certificates.htm#Types_of_birth_certificates

He has produced the short form not the long form. The long form is needed to obtained a passport.

[Collin]

I think you just answered your own question.

Fucking right he does.

Why?

[Dave]

Dave I had you smarter than this.... The certificate of live birth is the short form and is not acceptable to obtain a passport. You got lucky with people that are clueless in their jobs! Welcome to Amerrrica!




*A certified birth certificate has a registrar's raised, embossed, impressed or multicolored seal, registrar’s signature, and the date the certificate was filed with the registrar's office, which must be within 1 year of your birth. Please note, some short (abstract) versions of birth certificates may not be acceptable for passport purposes.

http://travel.state.gov/passport/get...first_830.html

Don't be an idiot.

My "Certificate of live birth" is exactly what you described. That IS the document issued by the City of Cincinnati Health Department with the seal, the registrar's signature and the date it was filed, etc. etc.

There is no other document. Now if you want to go back to Free Republic and get some more misguided "wisdom" on the authenticity of Obama's Birth Certificate, go for it. And while you are there, why not get some advice on how you can renounce your social security number, declare yourself yourown country, quit paying taxes, and build your own bunker.

If this thing had any traction or truth to it, do you not think that both Hillary and McCain would have run it to ground?

[Vedubin01]

What kind of crack are you smoking?

They are one in the same thing. My Birth Certificate has as its title "Certificate of Live Birth". Guess what, they gave me a passport. Same for my kids.

Dave I had you smarter than this.... The certificate of live birth is the short form and is not acceptable to obtain a passport. You got lucky with people that are clueless in their jobs! Welcome to Amerrrica!




*A certified birth certificate has a registrar's raised, embossed, impressed or multicolored seal, registrar’s signature, and the date the certificate was filed with the registrar's office, which must be within 1 year of your birth. Please note, some short (abstract) versions of birth certificates may not be acceptable for passport purposes.

http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/first/first_830.html

[Money$hit]

But Obama has to prove he's even a citizen.

I think you just answered your own question.

Fucking right he does.

[Collin]

So when does dubya's arrest record get released from his daddy's library? I'd like to learn more about his sealed records, considering he's already the president. Is he actually going to own up to cocaine abuse/DUI arrests now, or will we continue with the slip of the tongue that was responsible for us even knowing in the first place?

Should we bring up Brad Hanson sealing the records of his divorce once Sarah Palin was nominated, as she was the other woman who ruined his marriage, while she herself was married?

Since we're on the topic why are John McCain's actual armed forces service records sealed? I mean he was a hero right? Shouldn't he want people to know that?

But Obama has to prove he's even a citizen.

Where did those swift boat veterans for truth run off to?

[speedhop]

Someone has their priorities screwed up.

But I guess reporting things like the cost of Sarah Palin's eyeglasses are more important.

Winner. This entire race has been run by the liberal media...and they're doing a good job of mucking up the information.

Instead of reading about what different policies each candidate backs, I see ridiculous bashing (whether subliminal or blatant) on McCain and mostly Palin.

However, Obama is treated like the god of reform. Check out Newsweeks cover of him vs. Palin.




The problem stills stands that instead of being open about his history, Obama chooses to hide it. Running for Presidency and hiding historical data is a big problem for me (someone on the cusp of either side). If he isn't releasing simple medical and school records, what's next?

Would Barack Obama be able to pass a FBI background check and/or get a high level security clearance?

Probably not, and for good reason, yet some people think it's irrelevant.

Really? What good reasons are those?

[Dave]

Try getting a passport with a certificate of live birth.... They will not take that.

What kind of crack are you smoking?

They are one in the same thing. My Birth Certificate has as its title "Certificate of Live Birth". Guess what, they gave me a passport. Same for my kids.