What is your take on Phillip Berg?

[E30 Cabrio]

Would Barack Obama be able to pass a FBI background check and/or get a high level security clearance?

Probably not, and for good reason, yet some people think it's irrelevant.

Obama can put this whole controversy to rest by authorizing the state of Hawaii to release his Birth Certificate, just like John Kerry could have in 2004 by releasing his military records (all of them) to the public (and not just to a couple of media friendly outlets that only printed the favorable parts)

To this day, we still don't know why it took Kerry 8 years to get a Honorable Discharge.

The media has spent more time investigating "Joe the Plumber" and his background then that of the Democratic nominee for President and of Bill Ayers combined.

Someone has their priorities screwed up.

But I guess reporting things like the cost of Sarah Palin's eyeglasses are more important.

[Vedubin01]

Berg is really putting himself out there. Risking his right to practice law....

Obama citizenship question goes to U.S. Supreme Court


Obama citizenship question goes to U.S. Supreme Court
BY CHRIS RIZO
Barack Obama (D)
WASHINGTON (Legal Newsline)-The former deputy Pennsylvania attorney general who challenged Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama's qualifications to be president has appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court.

Lafayette Hill, Pa.-based attorney Philip Berg, a self-described "moderate to liberal" Democrat who supported Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign, alleged that the Illinois senator is not a U.S. citizen and therefore ineligible for the presidency.

He had his lawsuit rejected Friday by U.S. District Judge Richard Barclay Surrick of the Eastern District of Pennsylvania.

Disputing Obama's Hawaiian birth, Berg claimed Obama is either a citizen of his father's native Kenya or that he became a citizen of Indonesia after he moved there as a young child.

For his part, Obama has posted on his Web site a Certificate of Live Birth indicating he was born in Honolulu in 1961.

In his ruling, Surrick said Berg lacked standing to bring the lawsuit. The judge also said that the harm from an allegedly ineligible candidate was "too vague and its effects too attenuated to confer standing on any and all voters."

In a statement, Berg said he was within his rights to file suit challenging Obama's qualifications.

"I am totally disappointed by Judge Surrick's decision and, for all citizens of the United States, I am immediately appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court," he said.

From Legal Newsline: Reach reporter Chris Rizo at chrisrizo@legalnewsline.com.

[Ray Smoodiver]

He could be like "Hey Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, let off some steam"

[Vedubin01]

When the fuck are you guys going change the rules so you can all vote for President Schwarzenegger?

Though Commando and a few other movies had some good one liners, have you seen the Budget Deficit of California lately? I herd the Unemployment account was bankrupt. No thank you you can keep the land of fruits and nuts!

[Ray Smoodiver]

When the fuck are you guys going change the rules so you can all vote for President Schwarzenegger?

[Vedubin01]

Im saying if you want the job, come off the paperwork and stop hiding if there is nothing to hide. Let everyone see your resume! Nothing about mexicans walking down the street!

Holmes,

Why dont you ever look into something deeper than just what some one tells you? Read what Berg was suing on and it would answer your own questions. Also read the federal law I posted in previous posts to know who is legal and not legal to be a US citizen even if having 1 parent that was born in the US..

I will not make another thead for this but hear ya go... you know the ones that want peace and love!

You're the only one "telling" me anything. If I see a Mexican walking towards me on the street am I supposed to just assume that they aren't a US citizen? You and Phillip Berg are the ones making a claim and the burden of proof lies with you.

Ral, I don't believe anyone should be above the Constitution. So let me retract my previous statement and say that if I heard that he wasn't a US citizen then no I wouldn't vote for him. That doesn't change the fact that he is more than qualified for the position.

[Vedubin01]

Holmes,

Why dont you ever look into something deeper than just what some one tells you? Read what Berg was suing on and it would answer your own questions. Also read the federal law I posted in previous posts to know who is legal and not legal to be a US citizen even if having 1 parent that was born in the US..

I will not make another thead for this but hear ya go... you know the ones that want peace and love!

[Ral]

Not only that but even if it came out that he wasn't born in the US, I would still vote for him. The mans mother is American, he was educated at Columbia then Harvard where he was top of his class. He is perfectly qualified to be President of this country.

I can't seriously believe you think that. Well, I can believe it, but it saddens me because you basically said that one man is greater than the Constitution. George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, all those really smart people that founded this country spent years writing this document to ensure no one man was above the constitution, but it doesn't have to matter to you, you know best (and so does Obamessiah). I personally don't know what to think about the issue of his birth. There's still something fishy about the process and his reluctance to release some of these documents, but I don't see anything to convince me he isn't a citizen firmly enough yet. It should most definitely matter to you however. If he is not qualified, it rips apart the very fabric of the ideas the Constitution was written on.

the point is, the theory is that he was not born in the US..... thats the case in this matter.

If he wasn't born in the US then why would there be a certificate of live birth for him in the US? Also, if his mother is a US citizen why would she give birth to him in Africa then immediately come back to the US? Wouldn't it make more sense to give birth to the child here?

Vedubin I think you should just give up on this one. The evidence for Obama not being a US citizen is sketchy at best. Not only that but even if it came out that he wasn't born in the US, I would still vote for him. The mans mother is American, he was educated at Columbia then Harvard where he was top of his class. He is perfectly qualified to be President of this country.

[Pinepig]

Why are you guys defending someone so hard that seems to be hiding something. Every employer asks for this type of information. Why not the president of the United States?

There is a tasty creamy filling on the inside of every chocolate jesus.

[Vedubin01]

I already posted that and said it was a conspiracy theory. Brought this topic up before the rulling last night at 6:15pm est. I do not state these are facts but just have read a bunch about it. Thought it was funny that a known Democrat was the one bringing this up.

[ragged325]

http://www.philly.com/dailynews/local/20081025_Judge_rejects_Montco_lawyer_s_bid_to_have_Obama_removed_from_ballot.html

Judge rejects Montco lawyer's bid to have Obama removed from ballot

By MICHAEL HINKELMAN
Philadelphia Daily News

hinkelm@phillynews.com 215-854-2656
A federal judge in Philadelphia last night threw out a complaint by a Montgomery County lawyer who claimed that Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was not qualified to be president and that his name should be removed from the Nov. 4 ballot.

Surrick ruled that Berg's attempts to use certain laws to gain standing to pursue his claim that Obama was not a natural-born citizen were "frivolous and not worthy of discussion."

[Vedubin01]

I think it would be easier to convince Phillip Berg.

That was published days after the day he was born, and all you do to have that in the paper is to call them up and have them list it. This is like an announcement to let friends know.

There still is the other fact of him going off to Pakistan for school in the 60's. This would make him a naturalized citizen not a born citizen coming back. Also not able to serve as president.

Just have him come off the papers and shit like this does not happen.

He is looking like one to hide for not releasing the information. Schools, passports, and birth certificates. Simple really!

Why are you guys defending someone so hard that seems to be hiding something. Every employer asks for this type of information. Why not the president of the United States?

[Vedubin01]

the point is, the theory is that he was not born in the US..... thats the case in this matter.