Gallup poll: Obama @ 41% job approval

[briansjacobs]

So......1 in 5 Americans now think O is a Muslim......

1 in 4 think America gained its independence from a country other than Great Britain....

41% still think Saddam Hussein was directly involved in 9/11.

Fewer than half of Americans know that the Earth takes a year to orbit the sun.

So much for what Americans think.

so sad but so true

[Kershaw]

omg. epic post.

hahahah.

[briansjacobs]

So......1 in 5 Americans now think O is a Muslim......

1 in 4 think America gained its independence from a country other than Great Britain....

41% still think Saddam Hussein was directly involved in 9/11.

Fewer than half of Americans know that the Earth takes a year to orbit the sun.

So much for what Americans think.

these are probably the same people that say we spend to much money on public education.

it is funny my dad calls Obama a socialist, so I tell him if you are so against socialism to quit cashing your Social Secrurity checks. apparantly that is different!

[StereoInstaller1]

So......1 in 5 Americans now think O is a Muslim......

1 in 4 think America gained its independence from a country other than Great Britain....

41% still think Saddam Hussein was directly involved in 9/11.

Fewer than half of Americans know that the Earth takes a year to orbit the sun.

So much for what Americans think.

For the motherfucking win.

Fuck P&R, shut this cesspool down.

[BraveUlysses]

For the motherfucking win.

Fuck P&R, shut this cesspool down.

Would you prefer it leaking into OT?

[StereoInstaller1]

nope. I say shut down all political shit until the shit stirrers can be civil.

[joshh]

nope. I say shut down all political shit until the shit stirrers can be civil.

You normally don't post in here anyways. An when you do you're as bad as anyone with the insults. You shouldn't be one talking about not being civil.

[mar1t1me]

Blah blah blah, doesn't matter if it's out of context or not. What he said has nothing to do with context. The guy said he was one religion and the reporter had to actually correct the guy.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, sums up everything that is wrong with both American journalism and punditry in general.

Context is everything. That's why your snippet cuts off where it does-because editing out his clarification-that is to say, providing context, takes all the stuffing out your argument.

[Farbin Kaiber]

I didn't see it posted, but I think it should be taken into context in this thread.


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...s-his-critics/

Does not necessarily mean he is. I can see how the words could be spun into a one liner quote to defend that he is Muslim. But it in no way does he outright state he is, and until proof is otherwise produced, I'll continue to believe that.

I don't like him as much as the next guy, but come on, let's at least play fair here.

[Farbin Kaiber]

Josh, I think you are off base to buying into this, it's like saying Sherrod is a racist.

If the things I'd said here were taken out of context, people would assume I'm a homosexual racist, truck driver with paranoid tendencies that wears fuchsia.

[mar1t1me]

Josh, I think you are off base to buying into this, it's like saying Sherrod is a racist.

If the things I'd said here were taken out of context, people would assume I'm a homosexual racist, truck driver with paranoid tendencies that wears fuchsia.

You don't wear fuchsia? ;)

[joshh]

And that, ladies and gentlemen, sums up everything that is wrong with both American journalism and punditry in general.

Context is everything. That's why your snippet cuts off where it does-because editing out his clarification-that is to say, providing context, takes all the stuffing out your argument.

I'll explain it to you further...
Yes context matters however the fact he slipped and said his "Muslim faith" has nothing what so ever to do with what he said before that or after that. Minus the denial....

Josh, I think you are off base to buying into this, it's like saying Sherrod is a racist.

If the things I'd said here were taken out of context, people would assume I'm a homosexual racist, truck driver with paranoid tendencies that wears fuchsia.

Sherrod....let's not go there. She already admitted to being a racist in the past. She's not exactly vindicated simply because the White House made a mistake. Her comments around that mess and that simple fact she spoke at an NAACP event speak for themselves.

The fact the guy has defended Muslims at just about every opportunity and that he actually knows Muslim prayers tells quite the story.

[mar1t1me]

I'll explain it to you further...
Yes context matters however the fact he slipped and said his "Muslim faith" has nothing what so ever to do with what he said before that or after that. Minus the denial....

First off, I'm not an O fan, but I am a fan of truth and accuracy.

Try this: imagine, if you will, that the interviewer did not interrupt O. Now, at the beginning of the segment, the interviewer starts with:

"you've mentioned your Christian faith, yesterday you took off after the Republicans for suggesting you're Muslim"....and.... "the McCain campaign never stated you have Muslim connections".

Moments later O agrees, but adds "when you look at what is being promulgated on Fox News, say, and Republican commentators who are closely allied to these folks..."

Interviewer interrupts again with "but John McCain says that's wrong".

Seconds later O states "you're absolutely right....JM has not talked about my Muslim faith, <interruption> , he hasn't suggested that I'm a Muslim, (nor have) the upper echelons of his campaign, either. What I think is fair to say, what is coming out of the Republican camp have been efforts to suggest that I am not who I say I am when it comes to my faith."

That seems to be utterly lacking in ambiguity.

Now, if you wish to maintain that O said the words "my Muslim faith" you are certainly entitled. But to twist and torture what was said into an "Aha! See? He said he was a Muslim" moment is truly a fool's errand.

[Kershaw]

But to twist and torture what was said into an "Aha! See? He said he was a Muslim" moment is truly a fool's errand.

but it's so convenient for him!

[uofom3]

but it's so convenient for him!

Exactly.

Forget one-line interviews and snipped clips to prove a point. I'm trying to see this in the context of his actions and his views. His actions, and "slips" paint a picture that is far different from what he professes to truly "be".

It comes across to me like he's trying to make you believe his something other than of Muslim faith. It has to be a talking point because his actions lead people to the conclusion that, even if he's not a Muslim (I have no idea what he is, nor does it really honestly matter), he doesn't appear to be standing for the ideas that he says he prays to. It calls into question his integrity and creates a lot of questions as to wtf is really going on.