Year of the Bible

[HarryPotter]

It seems as though you need to learn your constitution better than a Canadian knows it, you're wrong.

Amendment I
Guarantee against establishment of religion
This provision has been incorporated against the states. See Everson v. Board of Education, 330 U.S. 1 (1947).[16]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incorporation_of_the_Bill_of_Rights

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Establishment_Clause

Damn that 14th amendment? :nice:

[joshh]

Not news worthy. But it is a waste of time imo.
You will never keep religion out of politics, never. Many people's religion has defined their ideas and those ideas are pushed by the individual into his environment.

[mrsleeve]

-- http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/wa...ction=retrieve

I'd be very surprised to find that the state you live in does not have something similar.

Although you might be surprised to learn that there is no clause explicitly stating "separation of church and state" in the Federal Constitution so there's nothing for people to take the "wrong way."

what he said.


IIRC there was a very early SCOTUS case (thinking 1790's) Vs the state of NJ. Where the state wanted to or did pass a law that required a person to be of christian faith to vote. That was slapped down quickly by the court.

[Farbin Kaiber]

Newsflash: The Bible is not a Religion, it is a book. Note, it is also the most printed copies of any book in the world, so think of it as PA is celebrating Capitalism as opposed to Christianity.

[cale]

I was waiting for someone to try to spin it using that argument, sort of like how intelligent design isn't creationism and should be taught in science class

[tjts1]

Newsflash: The Bible is not a Religion, it is a book. Note, it is also the most printed copies of any book in the world, so think of it as PA is celebrating Capitalism as opposed to Christianity.

So if they made 2013 the year of the Quran, you wouldn't have any problem with that? After all its not a religion, its just a book. Note, it is the second most printed book in the world. Seem fitting.

[Farbin Kaiber]

Fine with me, just as long as 2014 is The Year of One Fish, Two Fish, Red Fish, Blue Fish.

[mar1t1me]

Yeah, my point was to bring light to the ego-stroking hubris of the author of this resolution which wasted taxpayer time and money on......nothing!

Since modern moral sensibilities have little root in so-called sacred texts like the Bible, it should have no place whatsoever in the halls of government.

Both the Bible and Q'uran (which pilfered much of the Pentateuch) are fine with the idea that if your next door neighbor works on the Sabbath, you can kill him. Actually God commands it. Along with so-called honor killing, genital mutilation, racism, slavery, rape, incest.....it's all in there. But we don't stone people for eating lobster, or wearing poly-cotton blends, even though the Good Book tells us these are so offensive to God, the offenders need to die.

Rather, I feel it is time for religion's hold on those in power to die.

[cale]

But Americans are Christians! Christ never supported those actions and none of that is a prevalent in the new testament. What....he acknowledged those atrocities but did nothing to condemn them? Why turn the other cheek when one needs only turn and look away to be absolved of guilt? Jesus was a douche.

[mar1t1me]

But Americans are Christians! Christ never supported those actions and none of that is a prevalent in the new testament. What....he acknowledged those atrocities but did nothing to condemn them? Why turn the other cheek when one needs only turn and look away to be absolved of guilt? Jesus was a douche.

Even though some Christians believe the NT somehow supersedes the OT, Jesus himself is to have said in Matthew 5:17-20:

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven."

I'd interpret that as saying all OT provisions are still in full effect, and yet another reason to dismiss the Bible out of hand as a moral compass.

[tjts1]

[smooth]

lol @ "foreskin drop-off centers"

[herbivor]

^^This thread was pretty lame until I got to that letter. Thankyou

[wh00sh]

Wow - love that letter. Interested to see what response you receive, assuming you even get one.

[mar1t1me]

Wow - love that letter. Interested to see what response you receive, assuming you even get one.

Someone may have a black Crown Vic show up in front of their house!