Israelis in Gaza or Ferguson, MO?

[mrsleeve]

Buddy thats why I gave up, Fruit Smoothie is still stuck on day one hour one that this story went national/viral. Despite lots of links and information that has since come out and still coming out.

[Ether-D]

Full disclosure, I did call Mrsleve "Mrs. Leeve" earlier in this thread back when it was quite a bit lighter. But Fellas, you gotta stop bastardizing each others' names and slinging insults at one another.

And for Slaterd's question about national coverage, the reason there is more coverage of this event than the ones where a black cop kills a white guy is this: Whites were never enslaved by blacks in this country. That's at least a big part of it. Deep wounds.

And foreal, we could all be a little more willing to listen to each other, then respond, rather than just reacting to each other.

Sorry for the hippie shit, but it's so fucking out of control in here. BTW, this thread is perfect proof of why this is getting huge national coverage. Lots of us feel strongly about the subject. Hence major national coverage.



One more thing, The man that was shot likely didn't do everything exactly right while in contact with the cop. The cop likely didn't do everything exactly right either. It may not be just one guys fault.

[slaterd]

Full disclosure, I did call Mrsleve "Mrs. Leeve" earlier in this thread back when it was quite a bit lighter. But Fellas, you gotta stop bastardizing each others' names and slinging insults at one another.

And foreal, we could all be a little more willing to listen to each other, then respond, rather than just reacting to each other.

Sorry for the hippie shit, but it's so fucking out of control in here. BTW, this thread is perfect proof of why this is getting huge national coverage. Lots of us feel strongly about the subject. Hence major national coverage.

And that's the end of the argument. Are you a mediator? Lol but seriously well said.

One more thing, The man that was shot likely didn't do everything exactly right while in contact with the cop. The cop likely didn't do everything exactly right either. It may not be just one guys fault.

Well said...

[mrsleeve]

^

No hard feelings man, you will have to try much harder than that to hurt my feelings ;) I took as you meant it all in good fun.....

BTW this was not the only country in the world to have Blacks enslaved, the Natives were doing it here long before we got here with each other, and it was institutionalized all over the world for MUCH longer than it has been outlawed, in fact most of human history slavery has been a part of it. There are still many places its still going on, just below the surface of polite society..... Trying to use that tired old "excuse" is getting just that tired and a piss poor one to use as a justification for outrage.

[einhander]

I'm not going to defend the list that was posted because for one I'm not sure I trust the source (white power folk can't be trusted) but on the same token you cannot discredit lack of proportional coverage due to some imaginary quantifier. It's obvious that the amount of media coverage is not equal and I believe that was the point being made. The fact that "no national coverage" was used and a few of you have jumped on that little tidbit is not surprising.

They weren't killed by cops, that's why (I only looked at the list, didn't click through though).

That's not an imaginary quantifier...though I assume you mean qualifier....

[z31maniac]

Whites were never enslaved by blacks in this country.

In this country, no. Would you like to argue that whites have never been enslaved?

(Keep in mind how many "races" constitute "white."
)

[einhander]

Sorry for the hippie shit, but it's so fucking out of control in here. BTW, this thread is perfect proof of why this is getting huge national coverage. Lots of us feel strongly about the subject, but have no clue what we're arguing about. Hence major national coverage.

Fixed.

[frankenbeemer]

Huh?

Not that I'm on either side here, but the autopsy has shown all 6 shots were in the front including the fatal shot to the FOREHEAD.

Add in 12+ witnesses corroborating the officers story.

Can you point me to what you've read that counters this?

I don't think smooth answers any inconvenient questions.

I'm wondering why the police haven't made more of this publicly known. Would it help or hinder the effort to restore order?

[mrsleeve]

Playing cards close to the chest to keep evidennce for the unavoidable court proceedings from being washed away in to obsecurity by the media.

[frankenbeemer]

Here's some interesting racism:

The Daily mail reports that "Malik Zulu Shabazz, the president of the Black Lawyers for Justice and former chairman of the New Black Panther Party, was out on the streets trying to instill calm into the protesters."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2729532/Late-flurry-clashes-protesters-police-mars-peaceful-night-Ferguson-Michael-Brown-s-mom-calls-authorities-arrest-son-s-killer.html#ixzz3AwGH0Mvb

The Southern Poverty Law Center shows his calming techniques in this quote from his address to Howard University in 1994:

Shabazz: "Who is it that caught and killed Nat Turner?"
Audience: "Jews!"
Shabazz: "Who is it that controls the Federal Reserve?"
Audience: "Jews!"
Shabazz: "What? You're not scared, are you?"
Audience: "Jews! Jews!"
Shabazz: "Who is it that controls the media and Hollywood?"
Audience: "Jews! Jews!"
Shabazz: "Who is it that has our entertainers … and our athletes in a vice grip?"
Audience: "Jews!"

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/profiles/malik-zulu-shabazz

[einhander]

Here's some interesting racism:

The Daily mail reports that "Malik Zulu Shabazz, the president of the Black Lawyers for Justice and former chairman of the New Black Panther Party, was out on the streets trying to instill calm into the protesters."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2729532/Late-flurry-clashes-protesters-police-mars-peaceful-night-Ferguson-Michael-Brown-s-mom-calls-authorities-arrest-son-s-killer.html#ixzz3AwGH0Mvb

The Southern Poverty Law Center shows his calming techniques in this quote from his address to Howard University in 1994:

Shabazz: "Who is it that caught and killed Nat Turner?"
Audience: "Jews!"
Shabazz: "Who is it that controls the Federal Reserve?"
Audience: "Jews!"
Shabazz: "What? You're not scared, are you?"
Audience: "Jews! Jews!"
Shabazz: "Who is it that controls the media and Hollywood?"
Audience: "Jews! Jews!"
Shabazz: "Who is it that has our entertainers … and our athletes in a vice grip?"
Audience: "Jews!"

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informe...k-zulu-shabazz

What's the fucking point?

Half you half wits argue half the time that there is no racism, then you same half wits argue there is the other half of the time.

You're all missing the blatantly obviously point: racism exists and it occasionally feeds, correlates with, or manifests itself in violence.

Stop being such boneheads.

[frankenbeemer]

I thought you'd be pleased that I acknowledged racism exists.

[einhander]

Laughing.

I suppose you got me there.

[ParsedOut]

Full disclosure, I did call Mrsleve "Mrs. Leeve" earlier in this thread back when it was quite a bit lighter. But Fellas, you gotta stop bastardizing each others' names and slinging insults at one another.

And for Slaterd's question about national coverage, the reason there is more coverage of this event than the ones where a black cop kills a white guy is this: Whites were never enslaved by blacks in this country. That's at least a big part of it. Deep wounds.

And foreal, we could all be a little more willing to listen to each other, then respond, rather than just reacting to each other.

Sorry for the hippie shit, but it's so fucking out of control in here. BTW, this thread is perfect proof of why this is getting huge national coverage. Lots of us feel strongly about the subject. Hence major national coverage.



One more thing, The man that was shot likely didn't do everything exactly right while in contact with the cop. The cop likely didn't do everything exactly right either. It may not be just one guys fault.

Care for a razor blade with all that emo?

There haven't been any threats of personal harm (recently...), everyone should know that these comments are made in good fun. It should be obvious that Politics and Religion are two topics where people are rather inflexible in their views, so arguments are inevitable.

[frankenbeemer]

Laughing.

I suppose you got me there.

Glad you still have your sense of humor.

It's not intended to rebut the real issues raised by this tragedy. I just don't like racism in any form, subtle or overt.