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    It was though, what revisionist events are you reading.

    Unite the Right was organized and stage by a Jason Kessler and his groupies. The speakers were a KKK wizard and a Known White Supremacist.

    You obviously didn't watch anything or read anything sensible, since you think this dude who took the plates off his car was under threat and acted out because of it.
    The dude made a run up down 2 blocks and smashed into two cars and a crowd.

    Put those shitty 1920s-1960s 'historical' statues in museums if you must, they have no place on public grounds.

    go back to /pol/
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      Wow really?
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        Originally posted by Wschnitz View Post
        It was though, what revisionist events are you reading.
        I've seen plenty of videos showing that Antifa/BLM thugs were instigating the aggression and violence and it's not like this is an isolated incident. It's always those coffee shop "revolutionary" basement dwellers.

        If you watch the video of the crash, they were all attacking his car long before he hit that other car.

        But sure, keep watching edited footage on CNN.


        Trump never once defended the white supremacists either. He disavowed the hate and violence from both sides from the very start. That's just not good enough for lefties though because in their echo chamber they're convinced they're right and everybody right of Lenin is a fascist Nazi that must be stopped by any means necessary.

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          Originally posted by Wschnitz View Post
          It was though, what revisionist events are you reading.

          Unite the Right was organized and stage by a Jason Kessler and his groupies. The speakers were a KKK wizard and a Known White Supremacist.

          You obviously didn't watch anything or read anything sensible, since you think this dude who took the plates off his car was under threat and acted out because of it.
          The dude made a run up down 2 blocks and smashed into two cars and a crowd.

          Put those shitty 1920s-1960s 'historical' statues in museums if you must, they have no place on public grounds.

          go back to /pol/
          So you're saying that the "left" is not to blame, at all? Just because someone on the other side ran someone over? (which was tragic)

          Also, just because a statue offends you, you have the right to tear it down and deface it?

          And do you think one side is totally immune to ridicule because the other side is mean?
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            Of course there are people to blame on both sides, but people like you are trying to wash this event like there were no Nazis there, that it was just a few fringe fanatics.

            Can clearly see those dirty lib groups beating on these poor folks cars:

            Videos posted to social media show a car crash into protesters in Charlottesville, Virginia and then drive away.


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            Obviously the cause of the crash was he was scared for his life, thats why he accelerated a few blocks and tried hitting people on the sides of the street, then accelerated into the main crowd at the end of the street.

            Fuck off.
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              Originally posted by Wschnitz View Post
              Of course there are people to blame on both sides, but people like you are trying to wash this event like there were no Nazis there, that it was just a few fringe fanatics.

              Can clearly see those dirty lib groups beating on these poor folks cars:

              Videos posted to social media show a car crash into protesters in Charlottesville, Virginia and then drive away.


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              Those videos literally support my argument. A pack of dirty angry hippies chasing after his car screaming after they've already been attacking others, him and his car.

              Since independent thought eludes you, I'll use the leftist tactics that are ever popular when talking about President Trump. .. your failure to directly disavow Antifa/BLM for their violent thuggery only serves to prove you are a sympathiser and a Marxist shill.

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                antifa here.

                just so you know, the 3 arrows of the antifa symbol represent the fight against fascism, monarchism, and communism.

                marxism among our ranks is a false narrative.
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                  you have to be a real fucking piece of shit scumbag to try to rationalize this guy's murderous actions

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                    Originally posted by MrBurgundy View Post
                    Also, just because a statue offends you, you have the right to tear it down and deface it?
                    lets be clear, city and state governments need to take these statues down, not citizens through acts of vandalism. getting a felony charge for vandalism is not worth it.

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                      Decay, So it's socialist vs national socialists? Not that I have a problem with people opposing National socialists, it would just be ironic that other socialist are doing it. Or is it anarchy you wish for? What does history show comes from Anarchy? Oh thats right strong dictatorial leaders. Some movement you have been duped into. If antifa were a huge successful movement you realize it would lead to the very thing you are against right? Chaos necessitates a strong and large govt to restore order. I urge you to read about conditions leading up to facist regimes.

                      This reminds of the NY snowbirds who move to my area when they retire to escape the costs and politics of NY only to vote for the very policies the claim to want to escape.

                      Agreed about rationalizing this guy or any Nazi actions. The people I have talked to including some in my own family cant seem to understand when they say what the others side was doing they are by default rationalizing it. It really doesnt matter what they were doing. Your defending Nazis. How easily he could have killed as many as were killed in Spain today. Sadly, I really feel some feel it was only 1 person, and that somehow changes their logic. I see people defending crazy things lately that would have been crazy to think of 5- 10yrs ago. When I tell them that, invariably there is always a retort that starts with "yeah but". This is how civil societies breakdown. Critical thinking is seriously gone in this country. If there is this much tension now, we will be in a full fledged war if the economy tanks.
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                        Originally posted by parkerbink View Post
                        Yup. The funny thing is 90% of my historical knowledge is self-taught (although I have silly letters from a school in history) because I am a history geek.

                        I was the kid reading the history books on the bus to & from school.





                        Age has nothing to do with it, you are regurgitating "alternative facts".

                        As I said, read about it then come back. If you come up with a credible source that contradicts my position, I'll happily read it and if it proves me wrong I'll thank you and admit it.

                        Until then 54-40 or fight!!!
                        Man, I've been away for a few days since I posted about Dresden. I mentioned it because I was talking about killing civilians, not because I wanted to make a statement about the military necessity to do so or not (same goes for any incendiary/nuclear bombing of Japan during WWII). You can argue for or against the military necessity of any of those bombings (as well as many others since, Korea, Vietnam, etc), I wasn't trying to take a stance for or against any of them, sorry if it seemed that way.

                        My point was more so that I don't believe an entire city of people, regardless of how much of a nut job their leader is, deserves to be wiped from the planet. That's my belief in a common humanity. Do I disagree with what the dictatorship of NK does, absolutely, but I don't think the country's people should die because of what their government does.

                        As for Charlottesville:

                        The Confederate statue issue is one that we will see in many towns across the south as people move to alter the way people view the past. Creating heroes out of those that fought for slavery isn't something that is acceptable to many people any longer. I don't really favor removing the statues, however, because I believe that you shouldn't whitewash history. I favor placards of some sort that explain the errors of the past so that the statue is placed in the proper historical context for future generations to learn from.

                        As for the protest/anti-protest/riot I think that both sides provoked a conflict and it was unfortunate and disheartening that people died in the process. Those people immediately responsible should be brought to justice so that there are defined consequences for such actions and future gatherings can be made in peace rather than violence. People need to be able to exercise their rights to free speech regardless of the nature of that speech (as long as it doesn't infringe someone else's rights).

                        As with much of everything else that has happened since his inauguration, I don't think Trump handled the situation in the most "presidential" manner, but his reaction didn't surprise me much. I also don't really feel that anything he said would have swayed the situation much anyway, so his comments aren't really that important in my eyes and people shouldn't get so caught up in what he says to the media, but maybe I've just chosen to become desensitized to most of the media lately.

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                          Originally posted by decay View Post
                          antifa here.

                          just so you know, the 3 arrows of the antifa symbol represent the fight against fascism, monarchism, and communism.

                          marxism among our ranks is a false narrative.
                          Says the socialist that blows up on people that happen to disagree with him. You are certainly the paragon of civil discourse, just like the rest of the commy loving idiots in Antifa.

                          The false narrative is the one that paints Antifa as anything other than dead beat, coffee shop revolutionary, communist shills that show up at peaceful protests to incite violence and ironically use fascism to shut down those they deem fascists. Which is pretty much anybody that isn't Che Guevara, Fidel Castro, or Lenin. They've no clear agenda or mission other than stringing together a bunch of leftist buzzwords ending in ism.

                          This is Antifa.

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                            Originally posted by Wschnitz View Post
                            If you watch the vice vid the worst that happens is some Nazis get pepper sprayed after punching counter protestors. Meanwhile they show some Nazis beating people up and hitting them with clubs and shields and shit.

                            Pretty equal. Especially taking plates off your car and driving into a crowd, just equal stuff here folks.
                            Vice is an alt left media outlet. They're not at all unbiased.

                            Also, plates are clearly still on the car. Your narrative is false, you should feel bad.


                            This is your unbiased media outlet right here.

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                              Originally posted by Hooffenstein HD View Post
                              There is a huge leftist media bias about this as usual.

                              Was it a white supremacy rally? No, it wasn't. It was people protesting the removal of a historical figure. Were white supremacists there? Well, yes but its not really what it was about.
                              It's seems like the majority of them had the same idea, if you see the picture below. If it was about a statue how come the chant's were nazi rethoric, like "blood and soil" or "jews will not replace us" ? And not something like "preserve our history, don't make it a mystery".



                              Originally posted by Hooffenstein HD View Post
                              I've seen plenty of videos showing that Antifa/BLM thugs were instigating the aggression and violence and it's not like this is an isolated incident. It's always those coffee shop "revolutionary" basement dwellers.
                              .
                              Every time I want to protest peacefully I bring my AR and a shield too.





                              Originally posted by Hooffenstein HD View Post
                              Says the socialist that blows up on people that happen to disagree with him. You are certainly the paragon of civil discourse, just like the rest of the commy loving idiots in Antifa.

                              The false narrative is the one that paints Antifa as anything other than dead beat, coffee shop revolutionary, communist shills that show up at peaceful protests to incite violence and ironically use fascism to shut down those they deem fascists. Which is pretty much anybody that isn't Che Guevara, Fidel Castro, or Lenin. They've no clear agenda or mission other than stringing together a bunch of leftist buzzwords ending in ism.

                              This is Antifa.

                              https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...59948660936173
                              You have few examples of blowing up and name calling in this very thread. In this quoted post though your just doing it like a passive aggressive waffleswaffleswaffleswaffles tho.




                              Originally posted by Hooffenstein HD View Post
                              Vice is an alt left media outlet. They're not at all unbiased.

                              Also, plates are clearly still on the car. Your narrative is false, you should feel bad.


                              This is your unbiased media outlet right here.

                              Jesus H Wafffleswaffleswaffles Christ, stop with the liberal this, conservative that B.S. put down your copy of Mien Kampf and by a ticket to russia if you want to be part of a single party system.:hitler:

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                                Originally posted by rhE-30 View Post
                                It's seems like the majority of them had the same idea, if you see the picture below. If it was about a statue how come the chant's were nazi rethoric, like "blood and soil" or "jews will not replace us" ? And not something like "preserve our history, don't make it a mystery".
                                Take a close look at that picture. The only common trend I see is tiki torches. I can see more "POC" amongst the group than I can see Victory Salutes, or Klan hoods.

                                Originally posted by rhE-30 View Post
                                Every time I want to protest peacefully I bring my AR and a shield too.
                                Sure that has nothing to do with the fact that Antifa thugs have a history of violently shutting down events they disagree with.

                                Originally posted by rhE-30 View Post
                                Jesus H Wafffleswaffleswaffles Christ, stop with the liberal this, conservative that B.S. put down your copy of Mien Kampf and by a ticket to russia if you want to be part of a single party system.:hitler:
                                Good job avoiding an actual relevant topic of discussion to call me a nazi and tell me if I don't like your ways I should move somewhere else. Was that supposed to be ironic? Isn't that the kind of exclusionary rhetoric you seem to be against?
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