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    Originally posted by Javier h View Post
    They were both poor choices.

    In a way, I wanted Trump to win.

    I was just sick of the emails, foundations, Benghazi....I thought yes, peace and quiet.

    This was just equally as bad which to me promotes the idea that someone with less baggage will be able to take Trump out in 2020 without much effort.

    I think both sides want him out. Heck even Ann Coulter said she would vote for Sanders. That's how upside down all this has become.

    Who knew it would be worse than Hillary.

    ^^ I really think your local town Dog could've won 2016 -- meaning anyone or anything even moderately likable with no real baggage.
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      the democrats could nominate a ham sandwich in 2020 and it would win the popular vote.

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        Originally posted by phillipj View Post
        ^^ I really think your local town Dog could've won 2016 -- meaning anyone or anything even moderately likable with no real baggage.
        Just for fun, what baggage did Carson have? It sure was a **** ton less than any other nomination. At least nothing reprehensible or worrisome on a moral level. He just knew nothing about politics....sorta like trump.

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          Originally posted by R3Z3N View Post
          Just for fun, what baggage did Carson have? It sure was a **** ton less than any other nomination. At least nothing reprehensible or worrisome on a moral level. He just knew nothing about politics....sorta like trump.
          hmmm I wonder...

          Last edited by saucers; 04-19-2019, 08:52 AM.

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            Originally posted by R3Z3N View Post
            Just for fun, what baggage did Carson have? It sure was a **** ton less than any other nomination. At least nothing reprehensible or worrisome on a moral level. He just knew nothing about politics....sorta like trump.
            You never actually listened to any of his speeches or outlandish policy positions and opinions, did you?

            He also probably the least charismatic person to run for office..........ever.

            Like when he stated that "prison turns people gay."
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              Originally posted by saucers View Post
              hmmm I wonder...

              Read my question again.

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                Originally posted by R3Z3N View Post
                Read my question again.
                I understood the question, that's my answer.

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                  Originally posted by R3Z3N View Post
                  Just for fun, what baggage did Carson have? It sure was a **** ton less than any other nomination. At least nothing reprehensible or worrisome on a moral level. He just knew nothing about politics....sorta like trump.

                  I was speaking in terms of the General Election matchup only.

                  A faceless, likable candidate vs. a Trump/Clinton, the least likable G.E. candidates ever. And, Hm. If Ben Carson woulda somehow won the Republican Primary would he have beat a Hillary Clinton? I wish we could have found that out. Was that who you supported in the Primaries?


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                  It's also my opinion that if Sanders was *allowed* through he would have beaten Trump. I fear the same thing is going to happen again in 2020.
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                    Saucers, please try reading for the 3rd time. What baggage?

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                      Originally posted by R3Z3N View Post
                      Saucers, please try reading for the 3rd time. What baggage?
                      please try understanding for the 3rd time, he's black in the republican party
                      the party that spent 8 years saying Obama was born in Kenya

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                        His baggage is not the sins of Rep leaders. Try again.

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                          Originally posted by R3Z3N View Post
                          His baggage is not the sins of Rep leaders. Try again.
                          You're not sharpest tool in the shed are you.

                          I see you've ignored what I pointed out.
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                            Originally posted by saucers View Post
                            please try understanding for the 3rd time, he's black in the republican party
                            the party that spent 8 years saying Obama was born in Kenya
                            I actually disagree. I think the larger Republican Party would do backflips to have a smart, talented, likable/upstanding Black candidate - the GOP would love their own version of an Obama (if that person somehow existed); that person would have a fantastic shot at winning.

                            Ben Carson may have been an 'outsider' from Politics, but he wasn't at all exciting for the electorate.

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                            Now if the Republican Party is seen only through the lens of Trump's Party, Saucers has somewhat of a point. The whole Birtherism thing is/was sickening and despicable and paved the way for Trump's success with White Nationalist MAGA America. And we should never forget roots of that go back to Hillary's Primary fight with Obama with her campaign sending around photos of Obama in tribal garb for some ceremony he was a visitor at, intentionally trying to depict him as "other."

                            Clinton and Trump deserve each other. I wouldn't be surprised if they secretly still cocktail in the Hamptons on spare weekends.
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                              I do agree, Trump and Hillary are evils of the same nature.

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                                Originally posted by z31maniac View Post
                                You're not sharpest tool in the shed are you.



                                I see you've ignored what I pointed out.
                                Do I have to respond when I was not directing to you?

                                The point was about a candidate and political/personal baggage and wishing our choices didn't have to drag themselves through their own mud. You also did not list any of his baggage. You retorted with something irrelevant to the first statement.
                                Last edited by R3Z3N; 04-19-2019, 12:23 PM.

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