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    Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, El Salvador. These are the four Central America countries that feed the current migration to the North. These people are fleeing their home countries usually because of the very hostile social conditions. The violence. Corrupted police. Absence of civil rights. Four very unstable countries where the US has done everything it could to stir shit in order to NOT have left-leaning governments at their door. Well. Look what happens now.



    Honduras
    2009: Left-leaning and democratically elected President Manuel Zelaya, who pursued progressive policies such as raising the minimum wage and subsidizing public transportation, is exiled in a military coup.


    El Salvador
    1980–1992: A civil war rages between the military-led government and the leftist Farabundo Martí National Liberation Front (FMLN). The Reagan administration, under its Cold War containment policy, offers significant military assistance to the authoritarian government, essentially running the war by 1983. The U.S. military trains key components of the Salvadoran forces, including the Atlacatl Battalion, the “pride of the United States military team in San Salvador.” The Atlacatl Battalion would go on to commit a civilian massacre in the village of El Mozote in 1981, killing at least 733 and as many as 1,000 unarmed civilians, including women and children. An estimated 80,000 are killed during the war, with the U.N. estimating that 85 percent of civilian deaths were committed by the Salvadoran military and death squads.


    Guatemala
    1981: The Guatemalan Army launches “Operation Ceniza” in response to a growing Marxist guerrilla movement. In the name of “counterattacks” and “retaliations” against guerrilla activities, entire villages are bombed and looted, and their residents executed, using high-grade military equipment received from the United States. The Reagan administration approves a $2 billion covert CIA program in Guatemala on top of the shipment of $19.5 million worth of military helicopters and $3.2 million worth of military jeeps and trucks to the Guatemalan army. By the mid-1980s, 150,000 civilians are killed in the war, with 250,000 refugees fleeing to Mexico. Military leaders and government officials would later be tried for the genocide of the Maya victims of military massacres.
    1982: A second U.S.-backed military coup installs Efraín Ríos Montt as president. Montt is convicted of genocide in 2013 for trying to exterminate the indigenous Maya Ixil.
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      I just got back from Guatemala, interestingly enough, it wasn't what I would call violent. There are definitely gangs there, but that's mainly around Guatemala City, a majority of the population lives in rural areas far from there. The people that are leaving Guatemala for the US are doing so because they can get better jobs and secure better healthcare and opportunities for their families. Generally the same reasons why people come to the US from any other country, Guatemala just seems to be portrayed as some violent place, in general, it is not. It's very impoverished (70% of the total population lives on less than $500/yr or something insane like that), however, so people leaving for a chance at a clearly better situation isn't surprising in the least, nor is it surprising that they are willing to risk their lives doing it.

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        Originally posted by Massive Lee View Post
        Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, El Salvador. These are the four Central America countries that feed the current migration to the North. These people are fleeing their home countries usually because of the very hostile social conditions. The violence. Corrupted police. Absence of civil rights. Four very unstable countries where the US has done everything it could to stir shit in order to NOT have left-leaning governments at their door. Well. Look what happens now.



        Honduras
        2009: Left-leaning and democratically elected President Manuel Zelaya, who pursued progressive policies such as raising the minimum wage and subsidizing public transportation, is exiled in a military coup.


        El Salvador
        1980–1992: A civil war rages between the military-led government and the leftist Farabundo Martí National Liberation Front (FMLN). The Reagan administration, under its Cold War containment policy, offers significant military assistance to the authoritarian government, essentially running the war by 1983. The U.S. military trains key components of the Salvadoran forces, including the Atlacatl Battalion, the “pride of the United States military team in San Salvador.” The Atlacatl Battalion would go on to commit a civilian massacre in the village of El Mozote in 1981, killing at least 733 and as many as 1,000 unarmed civilians, including women and children. An estimated 80,000 are killed during the war, with the U.N. estimating that 85 percent of civilian deaths were committed by the Salvadoran military and death squads.


        Guatemala
        1981: The Guatemalan Army launches “Operation Ceniza” in response to a growing Marxist guerrilla movement. In the name of “counterattacks” and “retaliations” against guerrilla activities, entire villages are bombed and looted, and their residents executed, using high-grade military equipment received from the United States. The Reagan administration approves a $2 billion covert CIA program in Guatemala on top of the shipment of $19.5 million worth of military helicopters and $3.2 million worth of military jeeps and trucks to the Guatemalan army. By the mid-1980s, 150,000 civilians are killed in the war, with 250,000 refugees fleeing to Mexico. Military leaders and government officials would later be tried for the genocide of the Maya victims of military massacres.
        1982: A second U.S.-backed military coup installs Efraín Ríos Montt as president. Montt is convicted of genocide in 2013 for trying to exterminate the indigenous Maya Ixil.
        Right on. If anyone starts studying up on history, you'll see our Country is heavily responsible for the unrest in Central and South America where these immigrants (someone like a Trump Scapegoats) are fleeing from. We love Regime Change. We can put puppets in charge for private profit at the peril of the will of their own population. The situation in Venezuela has been our newest chapter in our long history of attempted Coups and Military Overthrows.
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          Definitely do not support of Trump's Military 4th of July parade & rally paid for by Taxpayers. No costs put forward. Putting himself at the center of it and flying and craning in tanks to run down the streets, etc, etc.

          We celebrate the founding of our Country. We shouldn't be celebrating our Military strength. We don't have to. Pathetic & Weak. We look like Russia and North Korea.
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            Originally posted by phillipj View Post
            Right on. If anyone starts studying up on history, you'll see our Country is heavily responsible for the unrest in Central and South America and the Middle East, and Africa, and parts of Asia ... We love Regime Change. We can put puppets in charge for private profit at the peril of the will of their own population. The situation in Venezuela has been our newest chapter in our long history of attempted Coups and Military Overthrows.

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              Originally posted by phillipj View Post
              Definitely do not support of Trump's Military 4th of July parade & rally paid for by Taxpayers. No costs put forward. Putting himself at the center of it and flying and craning in tanks to run down the streets, etc, etc.

              We celebrate the founding of our Country. We shouldn't be celebrating our Military strength. We don't have to. Pathetic & Weak. We look like Russia and North Korea.
              While I agree with the perception and to some degree the message is sends out. The 4th is called independence day and while not what sparked off the US Revolutionary war, it cemented the rebellion and gave fuel to it, and its MILITARY, local political, and geopolitical needs for its eventual success .

              So there is some context that is forgotten and while this years Trump parade styling's may be a little over the top (I do agree to a point), there is some matter of merit to them, for with out arms and men willing to put everything on the line for this country's founding our Independence day would likely be a very small foot note in British history textbooks.

              All this said, this certainly is not the 1st military parade in even recent US history. Just because the talking heads on the magic picture box are outraged is not a reason to be.....

              The U.S. tradition of military parades dates back to the Civil War era. RELATED VIDEO: https://youtu.be/HHWcldGZj3oPresident Donald Trump on Wednesday defend...
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                  Originally posted by mrsleeve View Post
                  While I agree with the perception and to some degree the message is sends out. The 4th is called independence day and while not what sparked off the US Revolutionary war, it cemented the rebellion and gave fuel to it, and its MILITARY, local political, and geopolitical needs for its eventual success .

                  So there is some context that is forgotten and while this years Trump parade styling's may be a little over the top (I do agree to a point), there is some matter of merit to them, for with out arms and men willing to put everything on the line for this country's founding our Independence day would likely be a very small foot note in British history textbooks.

                  All this said, this certainly is not the 1st military parade in even recent US history. Just because the talking heads on the magic picture box are outraged is not a reason to be.....

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9j0rOFq3PM
                  Its corny and put on by 5 time draft dodger.

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                    Originally posted by rhE-30 View Post
                    Its corny and put on by 5 time draft dodger.
                    x1000



                    God I hate False Patriotism. Flag Lapel pins, Showy displays before football games, etc, Pure symbolism. And Nationalism-- my country above everything else, right or wrong, to the detriment of anyone else. Trump's America.


                    How bout go help people who need it, contribute to the community. Work hard. Be honest about your taxes and your actions. Quit lying. Act on Values not politics.
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                        Originally posted by rhE-30 View Post
                        Its corny and put on by 5 time draft dodger.
                        who like it or not is the commander and chief of the most formidable military on the globe for the next 18 months or so at minimum....

                        So your point on this is mehh at best
                        Originally posted by Fusion
                        If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
                        The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


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                        Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
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                          Originally posted by mrsleeve View Post
                          who like it or not is the commander and chief of the most formidable military on the globe for the next 18 months or so at minimum....

                          So your point on this is mehh at best


                          Correct

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                            Originally posted by mrsleeve View Post
                            who like it or not is the commander and chief of the most formidable military on the globe for the next 18 months or so at minimum....
                            Terrifying isn't it?

                            His best military action thus far is cancelling his worst military action.
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                              it took me a day to catch up on dear leader’s speech

                              indeed sir, what a victory it was when we took the airports during the revolutionary war

                              now please stop saying things that make the rest of the world laugh at us
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