Trump Thread 2.0

[bradmer]

There is simply no one so secure that they cannot be killed so long as the killer acts completely alone, has decent funding, continues to live a fairly normal life, is willing to tolerate collateral deaths, and is prepared to not survive. Obviously many attempts fail, and failure is likely to lead to significant consequences in that nation.

Also, dictators typically subvert the normal processes of government to sieze and then remain in power. Clearly there are other ways, and specific sequences of events that leave the door open to a takeover of a representative system.

Exactly what is being done, the people searching out the limits of the P.E.A.D.'s are looking to subvert the diplomatic process. The problem is that the President has hinted at using this document to postpone elections and that is horribly rong. Collectively our top elected officials need to behave as if they have their country and constituencys' interests' at heart and do the right thing instead of lining their pockets. Even the President can't postpone time and the clock is ticking.

[nando]

There is simply no one so secure that they cannot be killed so long as the killer acts completely alone, has decent funding, continues to live a fairly normal life, is willing to tolerate collateral deaths, and is prepared to not survive. Obviously many attempts fail, and failure is likely to lead to significant consequences in that nation.

I'm sorry but this idea is a fantasy. How many dictators have been successfully taken out by a lone actor in modern times? I can't think of any. The only times it has been by force, it took concentrated military force to do so, and often the results weren't any better than what they had before.

[nando]

Where there's smoke, there's a raging inferno..

Trump says he didn't discuss hacked emails with Roger Stone. A bipartisan Senate report says he did.

The report says the committee assessed that Trump discussed hacked emails with Roger Stone — even though Trump told Mueller he didn't recall doing so.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nat...id=recommended

The question is, why do the GOP members of this committee still support him? I guess in that position where power is apparently all that matters, it's easy enough to make excuses and justifications even in the face of their own evidence.

[roguetoaster]

But it only takes voting to prevent one.

Yours is a romantic notion, but not consistent with history. Before being called dictators by history, they were called great men by those that supported and gave them power. Ultimately it's a perversion of history to forget that histories greatest despots were voted in to power.

There is simply no one so secure that they cannot be killed so long as the killer acts completely alone, has decent funding, continues to live a fairly normal life, is willing to tolerate collateral deaths, and is prepared to not survive. Obviously many attempts fail, and failure is likely to lead to significant consequences in that nation.

Also, dictators typically subvert the normal processes of government to sieze and then remain in power. Clearly there are other ways, and specific sequences of events that leave the door open to a takeover of a representative system.

[CarpHunter]

It also only ever takes one determined person willing to give up their life to remove a dictator.

But it only takes voting to prevent one.

Yours is a romantic notion, but not consistent with history. Before being called dictators by history, they were called great men by those that supported and gave them power. Ultimately it's a perversion of history to forget that histories greatest despots were voted in to power.

[roguetoaster]

Not necessarily, here's a link from those asking questions. The United States is only a sig away from being a dictatorship, would be a stretch but look who has hinted at all his powa under the hood...

It also only ever takes one determined person willing to give up their life to remove a dictator.

[bradmer]

If it comes down to it, tens of thousands of people still have to go along with it. Also, we don't know the extent of those emergency powers, or under what circumstances then can be invoked, or even if there is any type of oversight/review.

Considering the era of their origin, I suspect that the original intent was to provide a legal justification for otherwise illegal action in the event of a sudden military conflict. However, if they were in the way it looks like they may have been there's probably some sort of JCS tie in.

Not necessarily, here's a link from those asking questions. The United States is only a sig away from being a dictatorship, would be a stretch but look who has hinted at all his powa under the hood...

[nando]

Clusterfuck.


https://www.dailytarheel.com/article...ters-edit-0816

This also perfectly describes the Trump administration as well. ;)

[ForcedFirebird]

He is gonna have a field day with this:

https://m.thebl.com/us-news/fake-russian-collusion-ex-fbi-lawyer-will-plead-guilty-to-forging-documents-against-president-trump.html

[roguetoaster]

Presidential Emergency Action Documents or P.E.A.D.'s
Looks like he may try to postpone the election for real with those secret powers he's been talking about. No congress to consider, only close advisers to guide/steer the new Amerikan dictatorship should they try it. To know about them Trump had to have his attorneys' digging for ways to circumvent democracy. None of this looks good for anyone under the flag so I am cautiously optimistic that those closest to him will not allow it to happen.
Senior Senators and Congressmen who review classified CIA stuff claim they never knew this existed. Perhaps because it's the Justice Dept?

If it comes down to it, tens of thousands of people still have to go along with it. Also, we don't know the extent of those emergency powers, or under what circumstances then can be invoked, or even if there is any type of oversight/review.

Considering the era of their origin, I suspect that the original intent was to provide a legal justification for otherwise illegal action in the event of a sudden military conflict. However, if they were in the way it looks like they may have been there's probably some sort of JCS tie in.

[bradmer]

Presidential Emergency Action Documents or P.E.A.D.'s
Looks like he may try to postpone the election for real with those secret powers he's been talking about. No congress to consider, only close advisers to guide/steer the new Amerikan dictatorship should they try it. To know about them Trump had to have his attorneys' digging for ways to circumvent democracy. None of this looks good for anyone under the flag so I am cautiously optimistic that those closest to him will not allow it to happen.
Senior Senators and Congressmen who review classified CIA stuff claim they never knew this existed. Perhaps because it's the Justice Dept?

[ForcedFirebird]

ID10T for the inquisitive....

Edit: Kanye is about as important as Billary in this election.

[ForcedFirebird]

Kyane appeals to himself, and nothing more. Any idiot protesting Grammy is an eye dee ten tee in my book.

[roguetoaster]

Yeah it's bizarre. I think their idea is all black people will vote for him because he's black, you know, because they're racist morons? Do black people even like Kanye West?

Well, he probably appeals to idiots of all races, so across the spectrum of idiots he'd draw voters from all parties too. Considering how someone voting for West is an idiot they'd probably be just as likely to select a presidential candidate at random, should they even be able to understand how to vote, so there shouldn't be much of an impact.

On a serious note, we can't be sure at this stage if the West "campaign" is just paying political operators who'll work for anyone, or if there is some sort of misguided effort to draw votes from Biden. Seen a in a vacuum, West would probably draw votes from Biden as he is at the absolute other end of just about every spectrum. However, most of us don't exist in a vacuum, but some days I wish more of us did, what with the lack of oxygen.

[nando]

Yeah it's bizarre. I think their idea is all black people will vote for him because he's black, you know, because they're racist morons? Do black people even like Kanye West?